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Battery or Starter, Philips Extreme Vision bulbs

hi,

I'd like to seek the opinion of late model a/c R12R owners.

I have a 2014 Dark White a/c R12R.

The original battery lasted only less than a year and was deemed defective and replaced by BMW with another BMW branded battery.
This replacement is now 1.5 yrs old and over the last few weeks, I've been finding it hard to start. It takes several cranks before it will start. I noticed that if its in 1st gear
(of course with the side stand up) and clutch pulled in, its even more difficult.
I've recharged the battery every 2 months since the original battery was replaced, using a canbus Optimate 4.
As I live in a condo there's no electrical point so although the Optimate 4 is canbus I've to remove the battery and charge it normally, plugged into a home socket.

Could the hard starting then be a starter issue?
I haven't heard any issues regarding the 2014 a/c R12R having faulty starters.
If its the starter, apart from replacing with the factory Valeo branded starter, can it be re-wired/repaired and if not, is there a better quality branded replacement starter.
I was told a starter would cost upwards of USD550.

Another advice I'd like to seek is; I've read good reviews about the Philip Extreme Vision headlight bulb which throws a much brighter and whiter(cooler) light. On forums its mentioned as H7 Extreme Vision but in our manual the original R12R headlight bulb is a H11/12V/55W.

Appreciate any advice given. Thank you.

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hi,

I'd like to seek the opinion of late model a/c R12R owners.

I have a 2014 Dark White a/c R12R.

The original battery lasted only less than a year and was deemed defective and replaced by BMW with another BMW branded battery.
This replacement is now 1.5 yrs old and over the last few weeks, I've been finding it hard to start. It takes several cranks before it will start. I noticed that if its in 1st gear
(of course with the side stand up) and clutch pulled in, its even more difficult.
I've recharged the battery every 2 months since the original battery was replaced, using a canbus Optimate 4.
As I live in a condo there's no electrical point so although the Optimate 4 is canbus I've to remove the battery and charge it normally, plugged into a home socket.

Could the hard starting then be a starter issue?
I haven't heard any issues regarding the 2014 a/c R12R having faulty starters.
If its the starter, apart from replacing with the factory Valeo branded starter, can it be re-wired/repaired and if not, is there a better quality branded replacement starter.
I was told a starter would cost upwards of USD550.

Another advice I'd like to seek is; I've read good reviews about the Philip Extreme Vision headlight bulb which throws a much brighter and whiter(cooler) light. On forums its mentioned as H7 Extreme Vision but in our manual the original R12R headlight bulb is a H11/12V/55W.

Appreciate any advice given. Thank you.

Two in a row seems suspicious. I've had more than one battery replaced by BMW under warranty, but seeing how this is your second in a row - I'm inclined to think it's something else (like the starter, or your charger). In any case, I'm not going to throw myself into the ring with your electrical gremlins, I try not to get involved in internet diagnosis circlejerks - but I did want to tell you that paying $550 for a starter from BMW shouldn't even be a consideration. How they justify charging that for the part is beyond me. You can get a quality replacement for $100ish:


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I know more than one person that have replaced with that unit, with excellent results.

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fully charge the battery then leave it overnight then take it to an auto electrician and get it load tested. If it is the battery at fault I can recommend not replacing it with yet another BMW battery, they don't have a great reputation

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The extra difficulty if the bike is in first gear is odd, especially with a dry clutch, where you wouldn't exoect any resudual drag when the clutch is pulked, as you normally get with a wet clutch. You may have battery/starter issues, but are you certain the clutch isn't dragging as well?

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