[atractaspis]

I know that I will need a lower seat to be able to get my feet down (or at least more than my tippy toes) on the R1200R. I was just looking through the accessories booklet for BMW bikes and for the R1200R it shows 6 different options for seats. I am not sure which of those is the "low seat" option the bike will actually come with, when ordered with low seat. Does anybody have any experience with those? Here is the list of seats it shows (with seat height):

Sport seat: 31.5"

High Seat: 32.7"

High Comfort Seat: 32.7" (is that the 'standard seat it usually comes with?)

Low comfort dual seat: 31.5" (what is a dual seat?)

Low comfort seat: 30.3' (so what is the difference here to the low comfort dual seat?)

Extra low seat: 29.9"

:dizzy: :dizzy:

I have posted the same question on another forum..sorry if some of you come across this twice now

 

[Hoshiko]

I didn't know there were so many options. I though there were only 2 seats, the low and the comfortable, I know there is also a lower suspension option from factory.
Why don't you instead of sacrificing comfort, just get a comfortable seat with the lower suspension.

 

[Hoshiko]

oh, I saw the 6 different seats online.
I had no idea of their existence.

 

[atractaspis]

Hoshiko,

I decided against a lowered suspension... Have gone over it a few times and really only need to be a little lower than the standard seat and I am happy. I have even considered to get the standard seat and have it customized to be a litte narrower to get me closer to the ground. But while I was looking for seats I found those six different ones and now I am really confused. Ha

Was just wondering if anybody has seen all the different ones and tried them to see of maybe one of the lower ones is one somebody really liked. And am really confused on the dual seat option. Thought they all come as one piece.. So does this one come as a two piece set...

And it is driving me crazy that I can't find any pictures or descriptions on these options online (besides the seat height)...

 

[Clem]

It is my understanding that all the Roadster seats are one piece. Driver and passenger seats share the same base pan, which is plastic now, to save weight.

 

[Hoshiko]

There is always leg extension surgery
Surgery – The operation breaking the tibia and fibula bones both legs. An external fixator device (commonly known as an ilizarov), is attached to each half of each severed bone.
Lengthening – The fixator device is designed to stretch the halves of the bones further apart as new bone grows in the spaces between. Patients typically undergo 1-2 hours of physical therapy each day to ensure that bones don’t get stiff. Furthermore, individuals are cautioned from putting weight on the bones and are confined to a wheelchair for the duration of the lengthening process. The ending process yields approximately 2-3 inches of added height.
Strengthening – Following the lengthening process, the patient is confined to a wheelchair for an additional 3-6 months while the bones become strong enough to bear full body weight. Physical therapy is reduced to approximately three times a week. Once the bones have regained full strength, an operation is preformed to remove the fixator device (used to keep bones properly aligned after the lengthening process). A cast is recommended for the first month after the operation as an added protection to the bones.

 

[Hoshiko]

Another option could be to get some special riding boots

 

[drDave]

For what it's worth; I'm 5'8.5" with a 32" inseam and I have the standard seat, but can flat foot the bike on most roads. The seat is already pretty narrow. I think it would be kind of nasty to your privates if you made it even narrower.

Hoshiko, let us know how your height adjustment surgery works out. . . in the meantime, do the shoes work?

 

[atractaspis]

Hoshiko- great riding boots... with those I could even get on the 1200GS! :clap:

DrDave- as a woman I think my privates will be fine with a narrower seat

I am 5'6 with a 30" inseam (barely) and weigh 130 lbs... and I tried the standard seat .. just too wide and high... but only by a little bit..


About the dual seat: I thought that all the BMW seats are one piece as well..that's why I don't understand why they list a dual seat..and don't describe or show it anywhere!

 

[abronzetiger]

Hoshiko- great riding boots... with those I could even get on the 1200GS! :clap:

DrDave- as a woman I think my privates will be fine with a narrower seat

I am 5'6 with a 30" inseam (barely) and weigh 130 lbs... and I tried the standard seat .. just too wide and high... but only by a little bit..


About the dual seat: I thought that all the BMW seats are one piece as well..that's why I don't understand why they list a dual seat..and don't describe or show it anywhere!

I'm 5'9" with the standard suspension and a low seat that was redone by Sargent and I can put my feet down on most surfaces.

My SO is 5'3" and she can stand tip-toe with this setup.

 

[drDave]

atractaspis,

Glad to know you're a woman. . .we don't get many of them At a 30" inseam, try the Low Seat. I'll bet it works. Assume that even if it's marginal. . .you'll look better on the bike than any of the rest of us. .

 

[Hoshiko]

atractaspis,
Assume that even if it's marginal. . .you'll look better on the bike than any of the rest of us. .

That only apply if you get the way sexier, but be careful way faster matte gray bike. @ 130 pounds, you may fly away from all the power of it.

I'm 5'11" 33-34 inseam. I can floor both boots (not the ones shown before) even when I have the air hawk seat on.

I asked my dealership guy for some advice on the 6 different seats, he said "What?" it seems that the only 2 seats they have, and know about are the low and comfortable one.

We have to agree that Beemer's motorrad website it's not the best one out there.

 

[drDave]

OK. Atractaspis, I guess I have to modify my earlier statement: "You'll look better on the bike than any of the rest of us. . .except for Hoshiko." :001_tt2:

 

[atractaspis]

aBronzeTiger- glad to know that someone shorter than me (your SO) can get to the ground with the low seat

DrDave- maybe once I have my bike, maybe we need to do a new thread... pictures of all of us on our bikes and then see who looks best on their bike :m:10: I have a feeling Hoshiko might beat all of us in that contest...especially if he wears those boots he showed us!!

Hoshiki- you might be right.. I MIGHT get blown off my new bike... mostly because as a scientist with a Ph.D I can confirm that a major scientific study (conducted by me obviously) showed that the light grey is the fastest color!! Matte grey is now in second place.. The new light grey paint is made out of completely new atoms that reduce friction to zero and all you will see of it (on your matte grey bike) is a flash of light passing you :001_tt2:

By the way, someone from another forum (the r1150.org one) actually showed a picture of what might be what BMW means by comfort low versus extra low seat.. looks like the extra low is narrower and pushes the rider more into the front of the bike as well ... and most dealers are perplexed by the 6 seats themselves and haven't found one in my area who has them... the one dealer who tried to convince me they had a low seat, was actually the sport seat (lower.. I know..but different than a low seat) ... maybe a trip to Germany is needed to clarify that. Maybe on my next trip home (Austria) I'll make a stop there and tell them to freaking put all those seats on a website!!!

Now I have to sit in my car or on my couch and wait on pins and needles on my bike.. it doesn't even help that it is getting cold and nasty outside where I live.. I still can't wait to have it and ride it!!!

 

[drDave]

Dr. Atractaspis. . .I just biked into Chicago with the temp at 38 degrees at 5:30 this morning. Doable with electric jacket and gloves. . .fun even

 

[atractaspis]

Dr. Atractaspis. . .I just biked into Chicago with the temp at 38 degrees at 5:30 this morning. Doable with electric jacket and gloves. . .fun even

Well doc then you're about 3 hours north of me and I have a few degrees better weather here. I have been following the threads about staying warm riding in the winter and taking notes ..

I will have to wait a little though before I can afford an electric jacket and gloves. Are there any good places in the Windy City to go look at that type of gear? Hard to figure out online what would fit comfortably. Might be worth a visit to Chicago. Have been planning to go up there again at some point anyways ...

 

[Hoshiko]

pictures of all of us on our bikes and then see who looks best on their bike :m:10: I have a feeling Hoshiko might beat all of us in that **** yeacontest...especially if he wears those boots he showed us!! :clap:

I'd love to show you pictures of my self, but with Halloween coming shortly I have lots of photo shoots to go too, I'm a model
Ok one picture of me with those boots everyone loves so much

Hoshiki- you might be right.. I MIGHT get blown off my new bike... mostly because as a scientist with a Ph.D I can confirm that a major scientific study (conducted by me obviously) showed that the light grey is the fastest color!! Matte grey is now in second place.. The new light grey paint is made out of completely new atoms that reduce friction to zero and all you will see of it (on your matte grey bike) is a flash of light passing you :001_tt2:

Actually, the only way you get the rare breed of matte gray is:
Start wit a light gray bike, for some unknown reason, the bike takes a life of it's own, goes way faster, almost the speed of an R1200R with turbo, suddenly, the weaker light gray paint peels off the bike, showing some kind of super matte gray.

 

[drDave]

Well doc then you're about 3 hours north of me and I have a few degrees better weather here. I have been following the threads about staying warm riding in the winter and taking notes ..

I will have to wait a little though before I can afford an electric jacket and gloves. Are there any good places in the Windy City to go look at that type of gear? Hard to figure out online what would fit comfortably. Might be worth a visit to Chicago. Have been planning to go up there again at some point anyways ...

The BMW dealer in Barrington ("where the Men are Men and the Women are Horses") Illinois may have electric clothing in stock. They are super nice there and would certainly let you try on whatever. Lots of motorcycles on the first floor. . dangerous eye candy, to be sure.

There shouldn't be a big deal about ordering on line from a place like Rider's Discount or Motorcycle Superstore, Dr. A. They can talk you through the sizing. I would get the 55 watt version if you order the Firstgear jacket liner. The 90 watt version will roast your bacon in sub-zero weather, but even Chicagoans don't bike in that. . . 55 watt and a couple of layers is plenty for anything down to 20.

One thing that is VERY IMPORTANT!!! You MUST have your dealer install a 10 amp fuse and socket on the left side of the bike, where you can plug in the jacket. The conventional BMW outlet will blow out with anything higher wattage than a GPS and/or Ipod. I know. I blew it out, and the dealer said that BMW had not thought to put in a socket with higher amps (good going BMW). It's an easy addition, though. No surgery required, just an extra fuse and port.

And if you do bike into Chicago area; let me know. . I'll meet you. . we will be the only non-suburban riders in the Great City of Chicago ('Chicago': Old Indian Term for "Land where the Politicians Are Clowns"). ::001_tt2:

 

[Hoshiko]

The BMW dealer in Barrington ("where the Men are Men and the Women are Horses")

Can you send pictures?? I imagine something like this

I would get the 55 watt version if you order the Firstgear jacket liner. The 90 watt version will roast your bacon in sub-zero weather, but even Chicagoans don't bike in that. . . 55 watt and a couple of layers is plenty for anything down to 20.

One thing that is VERY IMPORTANT!!! You MUST have your dealer install a 10 amp fuse and socket on the left side of the bike, where you can plug in the jacket. The conventional BMW outlet will blow out with anything higher wattage than a GPS and/or Ipod. I know. I blew it out, and the dealer said that BMW had not thought to put in a socket with higher amps (good going BMW). It's an easy addition, though. No surgery required, just an extra fuse and port.

I have the 55W one, and yep, it is more then enough, I did get the powerlet adaptor for it, and didn't work, the outlet didn't blow out but just didn't work, I just plugged the included cable that has a fuse, straight to the batery, you have to make sure you have the right fuse, I have the jacket and gloves.

('Chicago': Old Indian Term for "Land where the Politicians Are Clowns"). ::001_tt2:

If that is true, then Mexico should change it's name to Chicago

 

[mboswell]

I am nearly the same size at 5' 7" with 30" inseam. I have the low seat and lowered the suspension about halfway down. While I cannot fully put both feet flat on the ground at the same time, I can get about half of each foot on the ground. When deciding on the purchase of the motorcycle, I thought this was a critical requirement for safety and control. However, as it turns out, it has never been an issue for me, and I have not regretted my decision at all. Time and experience will ultimately tell, but I suspect the fit will be good enough.