Checked in at a dealer yesterday and asked for a quick look see because I felt my 2012 Classic was a little sluggish after a 1200 mile trip. Everything checked out ok; but while i was there, the dealer mentioned that the dealership was now able to re-map the cpu's on the R1200R, for better performance. He suggested that i take his demo bike, which he had re-mapped, out for a test ride to see if i was abel to notice any difference. I certainly did; throttle response was much improved, followed by increased torque and power. I gave him the bike for the re-mapping and was amazed, a few hours later, when i took the bike out for the trip back home. Just like the demo bike, throttle response, torque and power all noticeably improved, both on the graphs that the dealer provided and on the road, where it counts. I highly recommend this procedure.
Ecu mapped!
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Ecu re-mapped!
That is a very interesting revelation, las. Could you post those graphs here, or supply a link to view them. I know lots of members are going to want to peruse them. More information, please. Might we be correct to assume it was a free service the dealer provided to remedy your new bike, or was it something you paid extra for? Who's your dealer? I haven't heard anything about re-mapped ECUs from BMW. Truly, that is wonderful.
That is a very interesting revelation, las. Could you post those graphs here, or supply a link to view them. I know lots of members are going to want to peruse them. More information, please. Might we be correct to assume it was a free service the dealer provided to remedy your new bike, or was it something you paid extra for? Who's your dealer? I haven't heard anything about re-mapped ECUs from BMW. Truly, that is wonderful.
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Hi Las.
This is very good news. What year model is your bike. I have a 2012 and would love to do this.
This is very good news. What year model is your bike. I have a 2012 and would love to do this.
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ECU Mapped !
+1 what Classic11 & MD11 have said.
I was in the dealership yesterday. Owner and chief mechanic both said no new maps from BMW for the R1200R. He cautioned against the idea, obviously.
Maybe our bikes share the same ECU as the GS,RT,and S100RR. It is a BOSCH BMSK ME9 274 ECU.
http://www.alientech-to.it/dox/KESSv2_Vehicles.pdf
Reading on the S1000RR Forum, it is able to learn and adapt to changes made, for instance adding an exhaust slip-on can, without being remapped. It's parameters are maybe a bit more narrow than say a
Power Commander V unit:
Power Commander V, Power Comander 5, Powercommander
So it may be just a bit slower adjusting than the newest version, but still a decent OEM unit. Remapping, or flashing, the BMS K+ unit with aftermarket maps has been around for a long time. Here is a post 4 years old.
DIY ECU hacking of BMSK - K-Bikes.com - Excellence in Motion
It is necessary to remove/open the ECU unit and solder onto the access pins before the process can be done. It can't be done through the OEM diagnostic plug on the R1200R motorcycle. AFAIK
The newer line ECU in the K1600GT is a Bosch MED 17 ECU. A British company claims to be able to remap this unit by accessing via the OBD. (Diagnostic Port) Read more:
A Remaps UK First to Market with EDC17 MED 17 on the new BMW range! | Remaps UK News - 0845 269 4064
May be available by the end of this year. There is a difference in top speed, among some other ECU issues, between the two K1600 models, and so this will be great news for them.
Doesn't change our situation though.
At first, I kind of thought las was just takin' a piss.
You know, drop a bombshell, highly reccommend it to all, and then clam up without saying who the dealer was. But the more I read about the issue on the various sports bike forums, it was a good education for an old geeser like myself. Thanks for the motivational jolt.
So like they say, The las laugh, laughs best.
+1 what Classic11 & MD11 have said.
I was in the dealership yesterday. Owner and chief mechanic both said no new maps from BMW for the R1200R. He cautioned against the idea, obviously.
Maybe our bikes share the same ECU as the GS,RT,and S100RR. It is a BOSCH BMSK ME9 274 ECU.
http://www.alientech-to.it/dox/KESSv2_Vehicles.pdf
Reading on the S1000RR Forum, it is able to learn and adapt to changes made, for instance adding an exhaust slip-on can, without being remapped. It's parameters are maybe a bit more narrow than say a
Power Commander V unit:
Power Commander V, Power Comander 5, Powercommander
So it may be just a bit slower adjusting than the newest version, but still a decent OEM unit. Remapping, or flashing, the BMS K+ unit with aftermarket maps has been around for a long time. Here is a post 4 years old.
DIY ECU hacking of BMSK - K-Bikes.com - Excellence in Motion
It is necessary to remove/open the ECU unit and solder onto the access pins before the process can be done. It can't be done through the OEM diagnostic plug on the R1200R motorcycle. AFAIK
The newer line ECU in the K1600GT is a Bosch MED 17 ECU. A British company claims to be able to remap this unit by accessing via the OBD. (Diagnostic Port) Read more:
A Remaps UK First to Market with EDC17 MED 17 on the new BMW range! | Remaps UK News - 0845 269 4064
May be available by the end of this year. There is a difference in top speed, among some other ECU issues, between the two K1600 models, and so this will be great news for them.
Doesn't change our situation though.
At first, I kind of thought las was just takin' a piss.
You know, drop a bombshell, highly reccommend it to all, and then clam up without saying who the dealer was.
But the more I read about the issue on the various sports bike forums, it was a good education for an old geeser like myself. Thanks for the motivational jolt.So like they say,
The las laugh, laughs best. 
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Clem- I'd just like to change it's target AFR's more for power, with power commander you have the ability to switch between maps. So say you have a spirited ride through some twisties and don't want to burn the extra fuel on the ride home on the interstate. have the stock map stored, bada bing bada boom. you can get a little switch to change on the fly. I'd say he did have the las laugh
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MAX BMW sent me an e-mail.
MAX BMW Motorsport - ECU Tuning
MAX BMW Motorsport - ECU Tuning
note the "may void your warrantee" line! lol
Re-mapping
Hi all, in answer to the posts, I had my bike (2012 r12r Classic new in March, now with just under 8k on the odometer) re-mapped at Max in Brookfield, Connecticut. It was not free. Along with a tune-up around $500. I'm sending ths from my iPad. When I get to a computer, I'll post the graph. The work was expensive, but, for me, worth it. If I understood the people at Max correctly, the design of the re- map was a modification of BMW's map.
Hi all, in answer to the posts, I had my bike (2012 r12r Classic new in March, now with just under 8k on the odometer) re-mapped at Max in Brookfield, Connecticut. It was not free. Along with a tune-up around $500. I'm sending ths from my iPad. When I get to a computer, I'll post the graph. The work was expensive, but, for me, worth it. If I understood the people at Max correctly, the design of the re- map was a modification of BMW's map.
Just after I sent the last post, I saw Clem's post with Max's ad. It says that you need to leave your bike for two days; they did mine in a few hours while I waited. I didn't have an appointment. Maybe I just happened in at a slow period. The graphs of my bike look similar to the graphs for the r12r in Max's ad
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