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Vibration just loosens them up . . .all the time. . I tighten them, a day or two later, they're loose again. . .the problem is that with a windscreen, you can' screw the mirrors in very tightly because the screen blocks your ability to turn the mirror.

Yes. . .I'll have the dealer look at it on first service. . .but. . does anyone know of any replacement mirrors that don't use BMW's double-nut system of tightening?

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Bar-ends ?

Hmmm...Have you considered bar-ends?

Bench Mark Works LLC
Albert bar end mirrors, solid stainless
ACC202 - mirrors mount in the end of the handlebar.

Napoleon:

 

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Wow. . you guys are amazing! Never knew those things existed. . .the Oberons in particular look way cool, but do the LED's make it harder to look in the mirrors? I am going to have to do some serious Mirror Research to find something that will work on the '12 Classic but avoids that cheap double nut that BMW uses. . .Just want to emphasize that I think the bike is fantastic - tracks like a gyroscope, smooth; stays balanced in slow traffic at a walking speed. . .but those frickin' mirrors. . .argh!!!!! :)
 

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Can you wire the Oberons to have the LED's on all the time but blinking when you hit the turn signal? Seems to me that would give you a big and more visible look on the road.
 

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Can you wire the Oberons to have the LED's on all the time but blinking when you hit the turn signal? Seems to me that would give you a big and more visible look on the road.
That's a pretty good question, I did some research and didn't find any info regarding this.

I do have aftermarket running lights hooked to both, turn signals and brake.

The front ones are at %100 all the time, then blink with the normal blinkers at the same pace.

The back ones are at %50 all the time, %100 when the brakes are applied and blink with the original turn signals at the same speed.

I think they are one of the best mods I could ever do, specially if you ride at night and in a city like NY with lots of crazy people out there.

I have a little video with them on, notice the blinking in the video is not the way they look to the normal human eye. It's something that happens with LEDs and video cameras.

 

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I emailed Oberon, and the unfortunate answer is that they can't be wired to be on all the time. The engineer said the problem is heat dispersal from the 16 LED's - if they were left on all the time, it would melt the solder. it begs the question about why they couldn't just put in one BIG LED on each side with a lenticular screen and a heat sink in the middle, but what do I know. . .? :)
 

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Decided to order a set of these to get rid of the Weathervanes on my Classic. (Bikemaster Old School Bar Ends)
 

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that looks pretty nice, and a great price too, good find DrDave. I'm not a fan of chrome but they will look great on a Classic bike.
 

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Thanks Hoshiko. Will let you know when they arrive and will take a pic when I put them on. . . they're expected in 2-3 weeks (backordered). I'm not a chrome everything guy either, but the 1200 needs a little bling, I think. . I did put the chrome engine covers on, which brightens it up, and a chrome engine guard.
 

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Decided to keep the frickin' mirrors and put two #10 lock washers on each mirror. So far, works like a champ, the spring in the washer lets you tighten it with a little give, if you have to actually move the mirror stalk a little.
 

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I just experienced the same thing with my right side mirror. My simple fix was adding some blue loctite to the threads. Not the super hold red stuff, but the lighter blue. So far, so good.
 

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Just bought the blue loctite AND added it to the lockwashers. You would think that with all of its engineering genius BMW would have come up with a mirror that didn't require spit and baling wire to lock in place.
 

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Bar end inserts

Anyone have any good methods on getting the stock bar end inserts out to install the bar end mirrors. The piece the bar end weights screw into is in there pretty good and I didn't want to tear it up too badly with my channel locks to get it out. I'm afraid to break it and then I'm going to be screwed. BTW my bike is a 2013 R1200R, not sure if it makes any difference.
 

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frickin' mirrors !!!

frickin' mirrors!!!
Vibration just loosens them up . . .all the time. . I tighten them, a day or two later, they're loose again. . .the problem is that with a windscreen, you can' screw the mirrors in very tightly because the screen blocks your ability to turn the mirror.
Yes. . .I'll have the dealer look at it on first service. . .but. . does anyone know of any replacement mirrors that don't use BMW's double-nut system of tightening?
drDave
Ha-Ha-Ha Have to laugh. My son had this same problem on the new GS_LC bike. BMW hasn't improved this problem yet.
I advised him about adding a lock washer, some blue lock tite, or an O-ring.
He said if the mirror was as cheap to replace as a Honda, it would already be imbedded into the garage wall.
 

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Clem, did you try the locktite and the lock washer and a small o ring. My frickin mirrors have settled down after that. others have suggested filling inside of the handlebar with bb's. if the vibration is that bad, maybe bring it to the attention of the dealer?
 

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If it makes you feel any better, Honda mirrors do the same thing!
I had to readjust my mirrors when I bought my bike. On the first ride, they wobbled loose, but I just tightened them down like the dickens and they've held ever since.
 
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