Michelin Power 5
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Those look like happy feet. What kind of riding do you do, and what type of mileage do you expect?
Mr. Badger recommends a Pilot Power front and Pilot Road rear here and here. What he says makes sense, the Pilot Power front works better and lasts as long as the Pilot Road rear so you can replace both as a set.
Thanks, Dave
Mr. Badger recommends a Pilot Power front and Pilot Road rear here and here. What he says makes sense, the Pilot Power front works better and lasts as long as the Pilot Road rear so you can replace both as a set.
Thanks, Dave
Hi Dave,
I also had these on my previous R1200R LC, and I used them for about 5000km before I sold the bike. At that moment the tires were still OK, I think I can do about 8000 to 10000km with them.
Reason why I can do so many kilometres with these soft tires, is because I seldom ride on highways, and I don’t do sprints at the traffic lights.
On the other had I do like to ride high corner speeds, and for this these tires are much better than the Road tires.
Even in the rain these tires are perfect, because of the soft compound.
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I also had these on my previous R1200R LC, and I used them for about 5000km before I sold the bike. At that moment the tires were still OK, I think I can do about 8000 to 10000km with them.
Reason why I can do so many kilometres with these soft tires, is because I seldom ride on highways, and I don’t do sprints at the traffic lights.
On the other had I do like to ride high corner speeds, and for this these tires are much better than the Road tires.
Even in the rain these tires are perfect, because of the soft compound.
Bear in mind that goes against what Michelin recommend.
That’s a remarkable milage from a soft tyre.
One of the things about softer tyres is you need more heat in them to get full grip. In the wet they will run cooler. In that respect sports touring rubber will always offer more grip at moderate speeds, on cooler days and in the wet.
Gareth I know what you mean but is is not the case with these Power 5 tires. These are NOT track-tires like slicks, these are normal street tires with a softer compound for extra grip (=fun).
Fair enough. But for me sports tyres are aimed at sports bikes and those who find sports touring tyres squirming and/or overheating on road (madness) or track. Plus the latest sports touring tyres have loads of grip, on the R1250R I’ll run out of ground clearance before I run out of grip.
And to quote Michelin;
And to quote Michelin;
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I know. And I know why they say it.
OTOH I've been running that combo since the PR3 came out on three different bikes. It works on cold wet crappy pavement on the backest of back roads and at Vmax on a warm dry MotoGP track. Note that during the latter the rear gets a bit greasy toward the end of a session
Currently running Bridgestone S22s because I was getting great deals and regular track time. As soon as this set is shagged I'll put PR rear, PP front back on it.
Interesting. I just bought my R1250R a few weeks back, and am scheduled to go to a 2-day track school in May. By then I expect I'll need/want new tires. Was looking at the S22s for the two days. Would you recommend them? Or would you stick to Michelin even with the two track days in mind?
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I've ridden track on both the S22 F/R and my fave Pilot Power front w/ Pilot Road rear combo.
The S22s are exceptionally good tires and last surprisingly long on the street.
The PR rear center works on a relatively low power bike like the R. The sides get greasy on a hot afternoon.
If you have not already installed shorter thinner stiffer footpegs, removed the centerstand, and removed the lower trim panels to buy more lean angle the PR rear will be fine.
The Pilot Road front is a pure conservative rider & wet weather street tire. It feathers/cups to uselessness in less than 2K miles when subjected to hard braking, trail braking, and fast cornering.
The great deal I was getting on S22s is gone and my access to free track time is evaporating. I have one more track day on the Bridgestones but as soon as the S22s currently on the bike are shagged I'll replace with Michelin PP front, PR rear.
Thanks, very helpful indeed. Was just in the garage looking at the bike. The lower trim panels scrape before the valve covers?
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The huge, stepped in dog poop squishy OEM footpegs scrape first at street speeds. Replaced with Puig.
Then the centerstand. Removed in the pits at COTA after my first session.
Next the lower body panels in T5 Harris Hill, T8 at COTA, and the exit of Horseshoe at Cresson. All the same situation - uphill turn that levels out while the bike is still leaned over. Note that 1250s have different panels that look less likely to scrape.
The valve cover will eventually touch down. I did it chasing a 120 pound track day instructor on a well track prepped Ninja 400 around a small twisty track. She was out cornering me but the R had enough grunt and the S22 front enough late braking traction that I kept up but couldn't show her a wheel. The Puig peg is pivoted up quite a ways when the valve cover touches. What happens next is not as much fun as you'd think and served as a wakeup call that I was being foolish. I'll be at that track next month, let's see if the lesson stuck
I will endeavor to learn from your mistakes
. Truth is, I'm not a very fast rider. I love going round a track, but am always in the middle of the slow group. I've scraped stock peg feelers before, but never gotten a knee down. Will report back in May. If anyone else wants to join me at Yamaha Champ School in New Jersey mid-May, that would be awesome!1 - 12 of 12 Posts
