Not about generating more HP, nor loosing wheigt, nor noise level.
This thread it's all about looks.
I think that the new 2011 wheel rocks the same as the sweet single swing arm but both are shadowed by the extremely large, bulky, colosal, humongus exhaust.
I would love to change that but don't want to mess with the engine, I read that some people even run straight pipes on older models without problems.
Anyone has any idea of an aftermarket exhaust system that looks good aka, small, undertail, under engine........
I contacted Remus about their powercone exhaust that is substantially smaller then the stock.
They don't know if it will fit the 2011 model.
Does anyone knows if the exhaust system or mounting changed on the newer 2011 model?
What is your opinion on running with straight pipes, may be a little tip for looks and to keep the exhaust away from the wheel but nothing else.
I know some people has done it but they had older models.
I don't want to damage my engine.
Is anyone here with a 2011 running straight pipes???
By straight pipes do you mean removing the catalytic converter also or just the silencer? If you leave the cat on I don't see how it would damage anything. The bike should compensate for fuel with the added air and the cat will keep the cool air from damaging the valves from cooling too quickly. I can say from my experience the bike without a silencer is not that loud.
Since I couldn't find anyone who made a shorter pipe, and found out running the bike without it is not harmful, I decided to do a tip myself.
Here are some pictures.
The result,
Not the best pictures since all were taken with my phone and on the garage with poor light.
I took the bike out for a 200 mile ride and I'm not sure I can get used to the loud sound, but until I find a solution that looks good too, this tip will stay on the bike.
Ha, I went with my buddy and his V-rod upstate NY, he has ride with me many many miles on different bikes, and he was there when I bought the R1200R.
He told me that now I sound like a dirt bike.
Not sure still if that is a positive or negative either
I have being talking to Scott K from Hard Rock since October about this shorty exhaust for our beloved bikes.
Finally, he told me last night, that they developed that silencer and is being tested as I'm writing this email, and will be available for purchase soon.
He does not have pictures yet but I will keep you updated.
And if it looks good, I'll buy right away and do a write up about it with tons of pictures and a video.
The exhaust to end all discussions of which is best.
All mandrel bent stainless 304. Started fabrication yesterday and all the bends have been cut and tacked together except the last before muffler. I am making my own muffler using 2" stainless perforated pipe and motorcross muffler packing. I purchased a sheet of brushed stainless to make the body. May end up utilizing 3" od tubing instead. Progress will be slow as I am using my friend's welder and can only work on it on mutual days off.
I was planning to wrap the pipes, I am running close to the electronic suspension adjustment. I am unfamiliar with ceramic coating. Does that keep the heat in at all? and can you do that with stainless?
Anyway here is an updated pic.. Went tonight and my friend finished welding what we had tacked and we fitted the last section of tubing before the muffler.
I thought I had a pic without the plate on and you can see that is now centered above the tire. Considering using a 3-4" tube that we could press into an oval shape... Originally I was going to y off the pipe inside the muffler to two 2" perforated but I need to neck it down from 2.5" at some point so decided to just run a single tube inside the moofler to hopefully get a little venturi action.
tried embedding the video didn't work... i guess will have to paste the link, sorry tech support!!
I was planning to wrap the pipes, I am running close to the electronic suspension adjustment. I am unfamiliar with ceramic coating. Does that keep the heat in at all? and can you do that with stainless?
Temperature Ranges
For many years, the only coating able to withstand the high temperatures of many motorcycle parts was chrome. As new technology improves the formulas and application methods, ceramic coating is becoming more popular. Depending on the formulation, ceramic can withstand from 600 to 2000 degrees Fahrenheit. Exhaust pipes, manifolds and headers become hot, and the choices for coating are limited. Ceramic coatings withstand the extensive heat generated by these parts and can lower the temperature of the part. Most ceramic coatings are also smooth and reduce friction when used on engine parts such as pistons. By lowering operating temperature, it is possible to increase the amount of oxygen available to the engine, which can lead to increased performance.
Color Choices
Ceramic also allows you to add color other than chrome to your engine and exhaust parts. It has become common to "black out" bikes. Although ceramic does not come in a huge variety of colors, there are still many colors from which to choose. Most ceramic colors come only in 3 to 30 percent gloss. A higher gloss factor will not hold up to heat and, over time, will experience dulling. Keep this in mind when planning a color scheme. NIC Industries has a line of ceramic that comes in bold red, yellow, blue and purple as well as black, silver and various shades of brown and green, which can withstand approximately 1200 to 2000 degrees Fahrenheit. NIC has a formulation called Chromex that is similar to chrome and withstands about 1300-degrees Fahrenheit. Chromex becomes more shiny as you work it. Using a Scotch Brite pad or a vibrahone, you can attain a high level of glossiness.
Durability
In addition to being heat resistant, ceramic is durable once cured. It is resistant to scratches, impacts and corrosion. Some ceramic coatings are more resistant that others. Special "high humidity" Chromex can withstand up to 3,000 hours in a salt spray test. This test is used in the coating industry to determine durability of powder and ceramic coating. Depending on whether a primer is applied, most air dry or oven cure ceramic coatings can withstand from 350 to 1000 hours in a salt spray test.
I know you are probably thinking there is no way that won't rub... you may be right but i've sat on it and jumped up and down and supposedly have room to spare.. If it does rub I will probably cut out where it's rubbing and weld in a section of turned over tubing. I think the restriction will be okay. I turbo'd my old Scion and it's 2.5" supported 250hp 300ft lb to the wheel.
Isn't that pipe arrangement going to bake your butt? There was a review of the Ducati Panigale in this month's Sport Rider, a bike with that pipe configuration. The riders said that they had to check frequently in slow traffic whether their pants had caught fire. Hope you're not planning on having any kids. . .
I'll survive, these are my two of my former bikes that have had undertail exhaust. I also read the reviews of the Paginale, there are a lot more bikes out there with no ill reviews of undertail (newer speed triples, last iteration of honda cbrs, zx6s and zx10s, mv agusta f4, tigers, daytonas, just to name a few). My guess is with proper heat shielding and keeping the wheels turning I will be fine.
I salute your creative spirit !!! Doesn't make any difference if it comes out perfectly the first try, or ends in failure. The fact that you gave it a shot means the world to me. You guys ROCK !
Hoshiko- Very nice bike, fz6? Also, I do like the setup you have on your bike now. If I hadn't already had it set in my mind to try this, I'd probably be trying a shorty also..
Yep 2008 FZ6, my first brand new bike in the States was sad to let her go but everything was fine once I put my butt on the R1200R
I love the idea of the underseat, just like the R1200S ( witch may be my favorite bike ever) But I don't have a proper garage with tools and stuff, if you notice the pictures, the first tip I made right on my kitchen, and failure was not an option but I failed big time.
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