BMW R1200R Forum banner
1 - 16 of 16 Posts

· Registered
Joined
·
42 Posts
Discussion Starter · #1 ·
Here's the photo...



Video will be linked in a while.

Love the looks..not very impressed with the sound though. But it may sound different once on the road :p
 

· Premium Member
Joined
·
2,878 Posts
Without DB killer...:pWhat's a DB killer? :confused:
It looks Italian. Does that mean Ducati & Bugatti killer?:rolleyes:
BMW CEO says the matte color Roadsters are the fastest.;)
 

· Registered
Joined
·
359 Posts
Without DB killer...:pWhat's a DB killer? :confused:
It looks Italian. Does that mean Ducati & Bugatti killer?:rolleyes:
BMW CEO says the matte color Roadsters are the fastest.;)

I can't tell if you are being facetious or not.. db (decibel) killer is the piece you get with a cool new aftermarket exhaust for the geezers who don't like loud exhaust or maybe their area is prime for coppers looking for an easy ticket. It just goes in the end and is generally held in by a bolt or two.. made my gpr tri oval quieter than stock. They are Italian made and for the record Ducati may be Italian at heart it is now owned by zee Germans (Audi purchased for 1.1 Billion). I'd imagine that will end Ferrari and Ducati's short relationship they enjoyed with the Panigale.

As far as matte color being the fastest, that is true. For bikes that don't have spoke wheels :D
 

· Premium Member
Joined
·
1,242 Posts
I can't tell if you are being facetious or not.. db (decibel) killer is the piece you get with a cool new aftermarket exhaust for the geezers who don't like loud exhaust or maybe their area is prime for coppers looking for an easy ticket. It just goes in the end and is generally held in by a bolt or two.. made my gpr tri oval quieter than stock. They are Italian made and for the record Ducati may be Italian at heart it is now owned by zee Germans (Audi purchased for 1.1 Billion). I'd imagine that will end Ferrari and Ducati's short relationship they enjoyed with the Panigale.

As far as matte color being the fastest, that is true. For bikes that don't have spoke wheels :D
And Bugatti was originally French then Italian and now also belongs to the Germans, VW got it.

Rumor has it that Audi (VW group) bought Ducati to compete directly with Beemer. I say, keep dreaming.

and to the "As far as matte color being the fastest, that is true. For bikes that don't have spoke wheels" I say, keep dreaming too
 

· Registered
Joined
·
359 Posts
And Bugatti was originally French then Italian and now also belongs to the Germans, VW got it.

Rumor has it that Audi (VW group) bought Ducati to compete directly with Beemer. I say, keep dreaming.

and to the "As far as matte color being the fastest, that is true. For bikes that don't have spoke wheels" I say, keep dreaming too

You keep that up and I'll end up putting a turbo on it..
I'd say Ducati has exploited almost every possible way make reliable power from their platform. I'd like to see them try a three cylinder or v4. Then again I would say that about every manufacturer that doesn't have one available.. I mean really have you guys every ridden a speed triple. They are violent.
 

· Premium Member
Joined
·
1,242 Posts
You keep that up and I'll end up putting a turbo on it..
I'd say Ducati has exploited almost every possible way make reliable power from their platform. I'd like to see them try a three cylinder or v4. Then again I would say that about every manufacturer that doesn't have one available.. I mean really have you guys every ridden a speed triple. They are violent.
One of my FZ6 forum buddies upgraded to an FZ1, he missed the FZ6s handling, looks, and few other things, then while looking for an good deal on an FZ6, he run on to a Street Triple left over, zero miles on it and something like $3k less. He couldn't stop talking of how much fun that stuff was to ride.
I think if Harley let Mr. Buell change their platform to a 3 or 4 cylinder, another history wold happened. Then may be work on reliability.

And just to finish, let me ask you, actually beg you, Do the Turbo
 

· Registered
Joined
·
359 Posts
One of my FZ6 forum buddies upgraded to an FZ1, he missed the FZ6s handling, looks, and few other things, then while looking for an good deal on an FZ6, he run on to a Street Triple left over, zero miles on it and something like $3k less. He couldn't stop talking of how much fun that stuff was to ride.
I think if Harley let Mr. Buell change their platform to a 3 or 4 cylinder, another history wold happened. Then may be work on reliability.

And just to finish, let me ask you, actually beg you, Do the Turbo
Well Harley had a v4 in the 70s or 80s that was putting out around 120hp I want to say, they scrapped it bc it didn't have signature exhaust note. It was in one of the Motorcyclist articles. It's amazing how many cool ideas Harley has squandered. I expect a lot of big steps from Erik Buell. All the moneys he got from Hero I'm pretty sure he will have something to drool over soon.

As far as the turbo, I've already plotted it in my head where it would all go. My main concern is the heat generated under full pulls.. There are outfits I've seen that have boosted previous generations with success. Theoretically with the added scavenging inherent to a turbo, an effective air to air cooler, the right fuel, and a lot of time tuning it's possible I believe to do it. It will never be able to take laps at willow springs but sustainable spirited mountain rides, sure. I've put a turbo on a car that wasn't turbo before and that turned out well (for me not the clutch). I'd expect with 6 lbs it would be about 135 to the wheel.
 

· Premium Member
Joined
·
1,242 Posts
As far as the turbo, I've already plotted it in my head where it would all go. My main concern is the heat generated under full pulls.. There are outfits I've seen that have boosted previous generations with success. Theoretically with the added scavenging inherent to a turbo, an effective air to air cooler, the right fuel, and a lot of time tuning it's possible I believe to do it. It will never be able to take laps at willow springs but sustainable spirited mountain rides, sure. I've put a turbo on a car that wasn't turbo before and that turned out well (for me not the clutch). I'd expect with 6 lbs it would be about 135 to the wheel.
You make it sound fancy and like it's incredibly difficult to do, everybody knows that a turbocharger is driven by the own engine's exhaust gas.:eek::eek:

 

· Premium Member
Joined
·
2,878 Posts
A Ducaudi ?

I can see Suzuki's motorcycle technology put to good use in making small economy cars. I can also see BMW's car and motorcycle technology crossovers. The K bikes for a striking example. Karl Benz, VW Beetle, Porsche and Japanese Subaru have all embraced the flat Boxer engine design.
Honda's lawnmower, garden tiller, 50cc Cub bike and auto technologies have grown hand-in-hand. They manufacture robots and jet airplanes now. They also make some pretty fair motorcycles.(Understatement of the year)
It's more difficult to imagine what Ducati engine technology Audi would choose to use in an automobile engine. Desmodromic valves?:confused:(NOT)
VW/Audi car technology in a Ducati motorcycle?
Classic11 may have summed it up, the end of a great love story.
Goodbye Panigale? Boy, I sure hope not.
Honda and Suzuki. Such classic feuding cousins.
BMW and Ducati. It's good to have a strong rival.
 

· Premium Member
Joined
·
1,242 Posts
It's good to have a strong rival.
I agree, by having a direct competitor like Ducati, specially now that they belong to a great engineering company, Beemer will have to step it up, and that is great news for us the consumers.

How many years has the GS completely dominated the whole market of enduro bikes? Since 1981, that's crazy. Finally the rest of manufacturers realized with a great product that bike is and started working on their own versions of it, Ducati Multistrada, Yamaha Super Tenere, Triumph Tiger explorer, Honda Crosstourer.......

Beemer felt their bread and butter was under attack and counterattack with the S1000RR, big punch in the face from year one of its production, basically killed any other bike in that segment.

Now that the war is on, seat back and enjoy better machines along with better prices.
 

· Registered
Joined
·
42 Posts
Discussion Starter · #16 ·
Well people...final verdict out...the exhaust is not loud (even without fitting the dB killer)!! A riding buddy commented that the 2 Bros on my old GS was way louder.

Great exhaust for weight & looks + price.
 
1 - 16 of 16 Posts
This is an older thread, you may not receive a response, and could be reviving an old thread. Please consider creating a new thread.
Top