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Hi All,
After exceeding my frustration level, I finally contacted BMW Motorrad ( Australia) in relation to accurate seat information.
I hope this may be of assistance.

Now atleast I can be confident when ordering a low 770mm seat.
Regard John

R1200 R 2006 Model







Description
Part number
Height







Seat bench, high, black
52 53 7 706 418
830 MM
This is height with this seat fitted to a standard height motorcycle
Comfort seat, high
52 53 7 721 958
830 MM
This is height with this seat fitted to a standard height motorcycle
Comfort seat, Low
52 53 7 721 957
800 MM
This is height with this seat fitted to a standard height motorcycle
Sport seat
52 53 7 706 416
800 MM
This is height with this seat fitted to a standard height motorcycle
Seat bench, low, black
52 53 7 698 379
770 MM
This is height with this seat fitted to a standard height motorcycle
Seat bench, low, black
52 53 7 698 379
760 MM
This is height with this seat fitted to a lowered motorcycle
Comfort bench seat, black, extra low
52 53 7 713 114
750 MM
This is height with this seat fitted to a lowered motorcycle







R 1200 R 2011 Model







Seat bench, high, black
52 53 7 706 418
830 MM
This is height with this seat fitted to a standard height motorcycle
Comfort seat, high
52 53 7 719 484
830 MM
This is height with this seat fitted to a standard height motorcycle
Comfort seat
52 53 7 719 485
800 MM
This is height with this seat fitted to a standard height motorcycle
Sport seat
52 53 7 706 416
800 MM
This is height with this seat fitted to a standard height motorcycle
Seat bench, low, black
52 53 7 698 379
770 MM
This is height with this seat fitted to a standard height motorcycle







Seat bench, low, black
52 53 7 698 379
760 MM
This is height with this seat fitted to a lowered motorcycle
Comfort bench seat, black, extra low
52 53 7 713 114
750 MM
This is height with this seat fitted to a lowered motorcycle
Part number 52 53 7 698 380 is replaced by part number 52 53 7 706 418
Part number 52 53 7 698 378 is replaced by part number 52 53 7 706 416
All of the above are dual seats
The 32.7 in high comfort seat is the 52 53 7 706 416 sport seat
The 31.5 in comfort seat is the 52 53 7 721 957 seat (this is a low comfort on standard height motorcycle)
The 29.9 in extra low seat is the 52 53 7 713 114 seat
For the R 1200 R 800MM is consider as the standard height.

 

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:clap: Thank you for clearing this up! :clap: I don't understand why both dealers I went to and asked could not give me this information!
 

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Thanks, but my seat doesn't have any of those part numbers. The numbers stamped on mine are 163609-10 & 7 697 216 05. I googled the numbers and it appears several other BMW owners have the same problem identifying what their seat is. I'm happy with the seat but if I had the opportunity to try/buy something different I would but may end up buying what I already have , if that makes sense!!!
 

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My experience with seats from before 2011 and after is that they are interchangeable even though they have different part #s.
 

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Thanks, but my seat doesn't have any of those part numbers. The numbers stamped on mine are 163609-10 & 7 697 216 05. I googled the numbers and it appears several other BMW owners have the same problem identifying what their seat is. I'm happy with the seat but if I had the opportunity to try/buy something different I would but may end up buying what I already have , if that makes sense!!!
Dave and DJ,
The numbers stamped on the seat are just numbers for the seat pan itself which is unrelated to the amount of padding installed and therefore not related to the seat height. My seat has a separate sticker clearly(in German at least) labeling the seat the xxx485 which as listed above as a standard low comfort default 800mm seat for 2012 models. Without a separate sticker on the seat, you are probably already aware, it makes identifying the seat a lot tougher.
 

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Finally found the right seat for my BMW R1200R.

I have a 2007 R1200R. I sat on a 2013 R1200R, with the BMW high comfort seat, in the showroom of my local BMW dealership and knew I wanted that seat. He assured me it would fit my 2007. When I came in to pick it up I didn't have my bike but I did bring the original stock seat. Sure enough we put the 2007 stock seat on the 2013 model and it fit the bike just fine... meaning the new seat would fit my 2007 R1200R. It did and I'm happy. The seat feels great.

By the way I'm 5'8" with a 30" inseam and the high comfort seat is perfect. I can't flat foot booth feet at the same time but I can comfortably put the ball of each foot on the ground. I'll gladly sacrifice a small portion of foot placement for a much more comfortable ride.
 

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Can any one identify which seat this might be? My guess is high (bench) seat? 06 14 BMW R1200R Saddle Seat E C | eBay

Seller does not have actual seat type part number, only what appears to be the seat pan part number(s), those being 163609-10 and
7 697 216-03.


I'm interested in a standard height Sport (aka Bench) Seat part # 52 53 7 706 416

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That is a "high" (52 53 7 706 418), the standard height has a more pronounced step between the driver and passenger platforms.
 

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This confirms I have the high comfort seat on mine which is way too low for me. Johnvw as you are in Sydney have you considered having your seat custom made to suit your height. ? I wouldn't be shelling out your hard earned for a BMW seat when you see what is on offer from
MJM Custom Motorbike Seats - Welcome for $440AU.
 

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Dear BlackDog,
Not being able to flat foot is a pain in the butt for my 27 inch seam, 5 foot 6 inch frame ( those imperial measurements just still seem to make so much sense.)
After looking at many alternatives and $500 for a BMW low seat I just could not justify the expense and decided to persevere.
I love the R12, but on reflection find the weight and height a concern. At this time I have some Wilber shocks ( non ESA front and rear reduced by one inch) on order.
I trust this will address the flat footing and also looking forward to being able to dial in the relevant compression and rebound damping.
Regards
John
 

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@johnvw. I'm 5'6" too, with 29" inseam. I have the low BMW seat with stock ESA suspensions. I can reach the ground with the ball of either foot, or tip of my toes on both sides. M only gripe with not being able to flatfoot is reversing. It's very difficult to pedal backwards with so little purchase, especially when you need to shove.

That said, let me know how you find your low seat. If there is a way I can tweak the R to allow me to flatfoot at least on one side without lowering the suspensions or selling my kidney, I don't see why not :)
 

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johnvw, are the Wilbers you have on order height adjustable? Here in the States Ted Porter is the distributer and is very willing to share his knowledge on the Wilbers, very generous guy, so if you have any questions you might give him a call....
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Dear Twitch,
Not to put a too strong argument, my R12 purchase was conceived with too much haste. I had always wanted a shaft driven BMW, 400 to 800cc would have Bent fine, as you know 1200cc is the intro model. The opportunity presented itself and I took the bait. No regrets with the purchase, just wished I had completed more research (most unlike me).
I will ditch ESA, I do not take advantage of the options and from continued suspension reading find it limiting and a best a fit for all. That said many riders enjoy the benefits.
I was aware the seat has three configurations. No problems I would find one to suit ... not realising the configurations meant three different seats, not three different positions for the same seat, again lack of investigation.
My seat is the 30 inch with added Freedom Air Cushion (modest increase in height), the lower seat would be an expensive exercise with minimal padding if I found it to be unsuitable.
I did purchase some tall heeled riding boots which would not be out of place I 'Tommy, the pin ball wizard' ever makes a comeback, BUT alas still toes on the ground only.
Finally, it was that continued feeling of uncertainty in regard to flat footing that lead to the Wilber purchase.

Surflj,
I have not forgotten you, your shock fitting experience will be invaluable.
I am having the front and rear shocks heights reduced by one inch. The rear will come with hydraulic preload, there appears to be nothing for the fronts except damping. A lot of searching did not seem to find any front shocks with multiple adjustments, possibly only for the upmarket track section.
When I started looking for shocks I was really disappointed, Yacugar ( Aust) did not return my email, a USA company ( I think of your recommendation) did not return my inquiry, Ohlin did NOT recommend a shock for the 2012 model. I even went to Sweden for clarification, still no recommendation, sounds strange I know.
Went to Ted`s site, there seemed to be a big push for anything other than Wilbers, except if I wanted WESA, I was crying in my beer at this stage. Fortunately came across Herman ( USA), extremely helpful and a price attractive in relation to Australia.
So December / January will be interesting.
Regards
John
 

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Which seat to get ?

Hi All,
Been searching for a low comfort seat for my 08 R1200R for a few months.
Just about ready to buy a Sargent when I came upon the Top Sellerie seat from France, it sounds great, but I've read no reviews, has anybody in the "R" world
have some miles with this seat? Help !
 

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The biggest problem with trying to adjust ergonomics is every action has a reaction, thinner seat padding reduces the height between the pegs and the seat and changes the angle of knees and hips. Shorter shocks or footpeg lowering reduces the ground clearance, so hard parts may come in contact sooner. I went through several changes on my previous R1150R in the end it was small changes which made the difference in comfort. With a 29.5" inseam I find the R12 better than the R1150, the front of the seat is narrower which allows for better reach to the ground. I can get balls of my feet down or one foot flat, which is okay when riding tough to back-up (park carefully). The only change I have made to the R12 is to install a set of SW Motech on/off road foot pegs, in the low position they have about a 5/8" lower than stock and improve the hip/knee angle with the standard height seats.
 

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Hi All,
Been searching for a low comfort seat for my 08 R1200R for a few months.
Just about ready to buy a Sargent when I came upon the Top Sellerie seat from France, it sounds great, but I've read no reviews, has anybody in the "R" world
have some miles with this seat? Help !
I got 880mm comfort seat from 2011. PM me if interested.
 

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Hi All,
Been searching for a low comfort seat for my 08 R1200R for a few months.
Just about ready to buy a Sargent when I came upon the Top Sellerie seat from France, it sounds great, but I've read no reviews, has anybody in the "R" world
have some miles with this seat? Help !
I have the low comfort and the low sports seat, there is about 10mm difference in height so very little. Personally I prefer the looks and the feel of the low sport than the comfort as you cam move around more in the low sport.

Havent tried the sargent or others but I expect they more comfy!
 
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