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I enjoyed your friends video Dave, thanks for sharing it.
 

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Dang it, another bike I "NEED".

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I enjoyed your friends video Dave, thanks for sharing it.
If you liked this one check out his youtube channel, Teapotone (named after the Met Police mobile catering van). He did a round the world trip on a GSXR a few years ago and gets lots of dealer support for his honest reviews.
 

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Note that the Auto suspension setting he referred to is auto-preload to self-level the bike no matter the load. So, if adding a pillion, the bike won鈥檛 soften the ride as such, simply jack up the preload and apply damping to suit.

Also, I鈥檇 expect the different Ride (engine) modes would be as per the 1200 - simply changes the initial throttle take-up rather than the amount of torque/power available with wide open throttle. From my test ride, the Road and Dynamic modes are softer from zero throttle than the 1200 Roadster, making Dynamic an easier (and more exciting) choice for everyday riding.
 

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Love/Hate

I initially said I loved the bike.. after a short run in the rain I must say I hate it 馃構

I have a tail tidyed Duke 690 throwing less road grime up my asscrack.. had to take jacket, pants and shoes into the shower. The bike looked like Dakar bike and needed a wash from top to bottom.

I suspect this is a known problem and my credit card is going to pay for it :crying:
 

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@Redman - the R1200R-LC's delivered to Australia in the early days had a mudguard fitted to the rear. A few of us were lucky to get them (mine was delivered without the guard fitted), others have purchased the part later on. The bike doesn't look quite as sleek at the rear, but it does keep a lot of crud down (not all). There's a thread here somewhere that gives details and images.
 

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I wonder if the crud catcher from a GS would fit?
It does (same final drive housing) - someone on the forum has fitted one
 

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From my test ride, the Road and Dynamic modes are softer from zero throttle than the 1200 Roadster, making Dynamic an easier (and more exciting) choice for everyday riding.
I've got the same feeling switching from the 1200R LC to the 1250R LC. The throttle of the 1250 dynamic mode feels like the road mode of the 1200.
That explains why some reviewers felt like the 1200 was more expressive than the 1250. I need to open the throttle more on the R1250 to have the same feeling as on the 1200.
 

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All I can say is that based on my experience of the two, roll-on acceleration on the 1250 leaves the 1200 in the dust. As soon as the shift-cam switches over you get a real kick in the but, a very hard kick in dynamic mode. Yes the 1250 is softer at under 10 kph, but as soon as you start moving opening the throttle on the newer bike is a much more exciting and dynamic experience.
 

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Certainly the 1250 goes harder at the top end and also has more torque on hand to draw upon at lower revs. From an everyday riding perspective though, it鈥檚 refinement and softer throttle response off zero meant my seat of the pants dynamometer didn鈥檛 make this very obvious - the 1200 already has a mountain of torque to draw upon for accelerating away from lights or overtaking roll-ons. Nor did I feel the Shiftcam transition. The extra grunt and power of the 1250 would be more apparent to me when loaded up and/or in higher speed situations, where it would be most welcome.

This video of the 1250GS vs 1200 shows them back to back, with some stats; go straight to 10:45 for the latter. The dyno chart shows a very smooth line so the Shiftcam transition is very well managed.
https://youtu.be/5WgugJQmRJA
 
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Certainly the 1250 goes harder at the top end and also has more torque on hand to draw upon at lower revs. From an everyday riding perspective though, it鈥檚 refinement and softer throttle response off zero meant my seat of the pants dynamometer didn鈥檛 make this very obvious - the 1200 already has a mountain of torque to draw upon for accelerating away from lights or overtaking roll-ons. Nor did I feel the Shiftcam transition. The extra grunt and power of the 1250 would be more apparent to me when loaded up and/or in higher speed situations, where it would be most welcome.

This video of the 1250GS vs 1200 shows them back to back, with some stats; go straight to 10:45 for the latter. The dyno chart shows a very smooth line so the Shiftcam transition is very well managed.
https://youtu.be/5WgugJQmRJA
How can I put it to help you undestand... No you cannot tell when the transition ocurrs, but yes you do feel the extra power once it has transitioned. This is not just at higher revs, there is more power available all over the rev range once you open the throttle.

By the way, dont you think it is time we had a separate forum for the 1250?
 

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The extra grunt and power of the 1250 would be more apparent to me when loaded up and/or in higher speed situations, where it would be most welcome.
Yes, and that may be the reason why the GS and RT users felt much more the torque increase of the 1250 engine.



My point about the Dynamic mode, at least under 4000rpm and moderate throttle opening, is that is not much more dynamic than the Road mode. I agree with you when you say that the R1250 is even better than the 1200, but I wish BMW has made the Road mode for that and a more agressive Dynamic mode for "sport". Whatever, I'm getting use to the R1250 throttle response. I just needed to adapt coming from the R1200.



How can I put it to help you undestand... No you cannot tell when the transition ocurrs, but yes you do feel the extra power once it has transitioned. This is not just at higher revs, there is more power available all over the rev range once you open the throttle.
Well, on the higher range, the engine is working in its standard mode. It is at lower rpm that engine works different than the 1200. I have not yet reach more than 5000 rpm since I'm still in the break-in period, but soon.


By the way, dont you think it is time we had a separate forum for the 1250?
Oh no ! :frown2::crying:
 
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