Thank you for the advice.Very high price, but:
1). You indicate that "This is the color I want " -- some may scoff, but, for me, that goes a long way...when it comes to the purchase of what is for most of us a toy, a hobby, rationality shouldn't override the gut...if you can afford it and the color scheme makes you happier, prouder, than any other year, get it. You'll never regret buying exactly what you want.
2). By buying used, you will escape the freight and setup charges of a new bike, charges that these (still somewhat sellers'-market) days can run over $1000 on top of everything else. That said, though, you do lose the OEM warranty. Is three years of peace of mind worth $1000...?
Good luck in your decision. As someone who has ridden both models, I will say the 1250 engine is a great deal more fun, notably so...not that the 1200 is a slouch -- on the contrary, it's only 50ccs, after all -- but that Shift-Cam technology just takes power delivery to a new level all across the rev range. Nice thing is, though, when deciding between the 1200R and 1250R, you inherently can't make a bad decision.
I made an equitable offer through eBay and the counter offer was $100 less than the asking price.. They could've made a realistic counter offer of perhaps $1500 less and then real negotiations would have started. A seller actually called me and we had a conversation and it was obvious to me, that they think they are holding BMW's golden bike. They are holding out for a buyer that's willing to pay retail for a used bike.As others have pointed out, a 6-year-old bike with a few hundred miles may look like new, but it is in no way new. I think that price is way too high. If you like the color, make them an offer, but I would say it's worth at least a few thousand $ less than asking. If you want to make an argument, mention the old tires, the likely way-old brake fluid, which might have even done some damage if it has been sitting in there that long (definitely look in the reservoir), the possibly dried out seals, etc.
I have the same bag and that's how I would set it up besides a small windscreen with a Wunderlich wind deflector. I found 2 blue R12's at driving distance from my place with reasonable milage BUT,,,, the blue I like comes from the 2023 color scheme.Just bought a 2016 premium with some add ones. Sw moto tech crash bars radiator protector bar risers mud sling and a couple other small things 2600 miles 12,000$ View attachment 120024
On the point of dried out seals, I think this is overblown especially on what is still a modern bike. I have a 37yo car that's known for being tough on rubber parts, and while I have replaced many seals, I haven't replaced them all nor needed to. Rubber has gotten vastly better since then and it's not going to go bad just sitting there. The tires are a different story.As others have pointed out, a 6-year-old bike with a few hundred miles may look like new, but it is in no way new. I think that price is way too high. If you like the color, make them an offer, but I would say it's worth at least a few thousand $ less than asking. If you want to make an argument, mention the old tires, the likely way-old brake fluid, which might have even done some damage if it has been sitting in there that long (definitely look in the reservoir), the possibly dried out seals, etc.
This dealer is about 4 hours from my house so I do have the option of riding before buying. I'm not much of bag person (panniers) since the most I usually ride in one day is less than 700 miles. As far as the BMW Garmin nav, I rather get the BMW Connected Ride Cradle and use my phone.This "a 2020 with around 1600 miles" sounds much better, and it's within driving distance. Even buying new bags and a new Nav VI I think you are still lower on price, right? Or you could wait for a deal on those items and add later.
uhm-kay! that's not a bad deal. I used uship several times so shipping is not a problem. Thanks for the post...This is outside of Ann Arbor Michigan, a long way from you, and seller says he won't help ship, but just for reference, take a look. 2020 model with 169 miles on it, similar colors to what you said you like: View attachment 120117
2020 BMW R1250R - ONLY 169 ORIGINAL MILES!!! - motorcycles/scooters...
2020 BMW R1250R WITH PREMIUM FACTORY PACKAGES ~ONLY ONE HUNDRED & SIXTY NINE ORIGINAL MILES!! ~NO MODIFICATIONS - FACTORY ORIGINAL ~LIGHT WHITE/RACING BLUE METALLIC/RACING RED PAINT ~1,254 CC...detroit.craigslist.org
It’s the “select” package for $2950. That’s a pretty good deal for a bike that hasn’t reached its first service. The seller doesn’t need to help ship. He needs to be there when the bike is picked up.This is outside of Ann Arbor Michigan, a long way from you, and seller says he won't help ship, but just for reference, take a look. 2020 model with 169 miles on it, similar colors to what you said you like: View attachment 120117
2020 BMW R1250R - ONLY 169 ORIGINAL MILES!!! - motorcycles/scooters...
2020 BMW R1250R WITH PREMIUM FACTORY PACKAGES ~ONLY ONE HUNDRED & SIXTY NINE ORIGINAL MILES!! ~NO MODIFICATIONS - FACTORY ORIGINAL ~LIGHT WHITE/RACING BLUE METALLIC/RACING RED PAINT ~1,254 CC...detroit.craigslist.org
I sold a Triumph Thunderbird 1700 to a guy in Canada. He suggested that I bring it to my dealer to have it checked out at his expense. He arranged it. My dealer was reputable and did this kind of thing regularly. So he bought the bike. Fortunately for him, he had a relative who lived near me. She met me at the bank and forked over the money. I gave her the title and parked the bike in her garage. She gave me a lift home.So I have done many sight unseen deals but never from a private owner outside of eBay. How would one proceed with a high amount like this and not get shafted????
You could fly there and drive it back.Well, seller already made up his mind, so no-go for me.... View attachment 120122