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Static tip over - muffler damage question.

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With panniers removed, does a fall-over to the right damage the exhaust muffler?
If so;
  • Is there a muffler band or cover available for increased protection?
  • Can the pillion pegs somehow be ‘padded/extended outwards’ slightly to offer improved protection?

Thank you, Selby.
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Hmmm, static tip-over - any bike tip-over by a gust of wind, nudged in a carpark, sloppy rider u-turn, rider losing footing or whatever - the damage could be cosmetic scratches or very expensive. I've had a carpark tip-over and damaged the CAN, cylinder head, bar end and a few bits&peices. From memory, the cost of the all-up parts was around 3k. Accidents happen and when it does, fix it and move on. IMHO, I'd be more concerned about having a good set of cylinder head protectors like MAM than the CAN protection. Oh, even replacing an OEM damaged pannier lid can be an eye-watering price. Just my view tho’ .


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I have the Wunderlich foot extender on my LC and IMHO it's one of the best. What makes it so good is the bike's side stand foot fits inside the foot extender. From memory, Wunderlich's foot adds about 1.5mm in height. So, a nice wide-foot base without adding a real lean angle to the bikes when it's on the side stand. Just saying...
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Motorcycles are programmed to fall to the left. If it's a very contrary example, then you may have an excess of gravity to the right.



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Not so static right-hand side tip-over yesterday while riding along the Bylong Valley Way. Apart from scuffing up a pannier and Machinesart Moto head protector no other damage. The small H&B Orbit pannier took one for the Akra exhaust. I underestimated how slippery the water causeway was and lost the front end.
I managed to pick up the bike and continue my ride. Apart from that little misadventure, fabulous day out on LC. While it's not what I enjoy it was satisfying to see my bike fitness and tip-over practice sessions helping me out in a real-world situation.
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Here’s a Youtube clip of my tip-over.



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Yeap, the Algea strip in the centre caught me. However, I got off lightly. I have a spare right-side headcover, and with wet and dry sanding, I can make the pannier scuffs less noticeable.


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When I get time I'll go through the dashcam footage. No injuries and riding gear seems all good as well - ATGATT.


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It looked like a pleasant ride until the slip. Not much damage by the looks, to you or the machine, so an unfortunate but good outcome.

I wouldn’t have expected a slippery surface lurking in the water. Surprising! Just as well I wasn’t there as it may have been splash 1 then splash 2.

Seeing this makes me very wary about creek crossings from now on but not much can be done. Cross or don’t cross?

I’m glad you and the R survived well.

Selby.
The was very little depth, and I crossed three or four causeways earlier In the morning and had no issues. Even if I had walked it across following the same line, I would have slipped over. Just in the centre lots of very thick green slime. After I got the bike out, I parked and walked into the centre; it was so slippery, even underfoot. In hindsight, I should've parked the bike and picked a better line. That said, I still had a great day and continued the day's ride. I can't wait to get back out there again.
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@Panzermann I didn't want to be left out; if you could do it, so can I. I got going and stopped a couple of Ks down, a GS ride pulled up alongside looking quite annoyed and said he just went over on the causeway.
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Nope, no hydroplaning - very Slippery green algae for sure. I was there, rode through albeit on my side and also walked through after the event to work out what happened.


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I guess one positive was I got to put my new and improved GoPro side mount to the test. Thumbs up
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All good advice and each situation is different. I've lost count of the number of successful crossings and have never encountered anything as slippery as that one and totally unexpected.


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An excellent conversation and exactly the reason for posting my short clip. It would great if more forum members shared some of their GoPro / dashcam clips.


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It's Australia, everything is upside down there.
That explains my tip over @sturgeon:
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Yes, Yes from an upside position that argument doesn't stack up @Pazermann (n) 😂
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Don’t know what you’re all on about …
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No settle down lads and remember which way is UP when you next hop on your BMs, or is it down?
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I think we should get this thread back on topic. So, now, back to the topic at hand - the two sides - flat earth mob V others. I'm firmly with my old-mate Pythagoras the Greek.
I would have thought the RS & R LCs use the same side stand @Luma46. I had the same issue on my ‘17 LC and shorted the stand 15mm. A non-modification trick you could use when parking is to put the bike in neutral, get off, and switch off the ignition this will raise the rear suspension a touch and give the less upright lean on the side stand (assuming you have ESA).


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Parking in neutral can often be risky. I use the kill switch to turn off the engine, alight, lift the suspension a little, then ‘key off’. As Mike indicates, the front suspension is hard to compress when the key is off.
I ride my 1200 on Dynamic ESA most of the time - the additional rear preload lifts the bike a little, too, adding to the lean angle when parked.
Risky, I guess, if you don't have common sense. I should have included a disclaimer - how careless of me


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Over the weekend on my two-day ride came across an opportunity to finetune my slimy-green-slippery water causeway crossing. So come across this beauty on the back road between Manilla and Gunnedah: the water looked inviting with its shimmering pretty green colour. Usually, I would have a crack, but as it was late in the arvo, I thought it best to find another way around.

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