Got it, I think. Fledged and Dr. Dave if I have it right, you start up your motors before you mount your bikes, put on helmets and gloves and then climb aboard with the engine already running. That possibility never crossed my mind when I was trying to figure out how you could start up and let your bikes idle while putting on helmets and gloves. If it works for you, great. It just wouldn't feel safe for me to do that? I want to be sitting on my bike with hands on brake and clutch levers, right foot on rear brake, when I push the start button just like they teach at MSF courses.