Get yourself to a Harley dealer and take a test ride, it's something everybody should experience. I hired one a few years ago during a holiday in the US and it was the worst bike I've ever been on. I brought one of the exhaust brackets home with me as I ground it off going round some bends. Fortunately the dealer didn't notice.I'd probably choose an H-D key, as despite having owned over 70 bikes and ridden many more, I've never had a go on a Harley.
Sorry, we may all like different things and it would be a sadder world if we all liked the same thing. But some things gain an almost universal recognition for being beautiful, and some things for being ugly, and the R1200ST is one of those. I don't even think it's one of those bikes that divide opinion, where it's beauty can be seen in its functionality. It's great that you have one and like it, each to his own, but throw a bunch of bike keys on the table and no one's picking picking up those keys first to go home.
I would go for the Harley keys. Hopefully I'd get one with loud exhausts so I can ride up and down the main street of town blipping the throttle constantlyOpinion must always be divided as we all like different things. The key analogy - now that depends on what the other bikes are, if all the others were HD keys what would you chose?
When you look at the ST in your last photo I can't see why people don't like it. I had my first proper ride out the other day, every bit as good as my Roadster.
I wouldn't choose the H-D key. Until about two years ago, I had never ridden one. Then a friend of mine bought one. I test rode the one he ended up buying. It was a 2001 H-D 883 Sportster. One twenty minute ride was enough Harley for a lifetime. It is a very different bike from the boxers I have been riding for about 50 years now. One interesting fact: his 2001 H-D has about 6000 km on the clock. I passed that mileage in the first trip on my current R1200R.I'd probably choose an H-D key, as despite having owned over 70 bikes and ridden many more, I've never had a go on a Harley.
I nearly bought one, but was still mad at BMW at the time. (my '94 RS ate the gearbox just after I spent hours replacing the clutch. (86,000 miles or so) The gearbox literally kerplunken about 500 miles after putting in the new clutch. I was "hella pissed off" as they say in Oakland, California.Was the 05 R1200ST ahead of its time/misunderstood? I think it was both.
LOVED the looks of the ST but could NOT get past that headlight, sorry. I don't think it was ahead of its time, I just think sometimes Germans should outsource aesthetics to Italians or Brits.. . . I saw an ST someplace and even though I saw that headlight arrangement as an oddly designed thing, the bike was appealing . . .
Sums up my experience with a FJR 1300 very well, great paper specs but tall, wide & top heavy like many otherwise fine Yamahas. Sort of the Anti-Roadster.. . . But I resisted the urge and got an FJR1300, a bike I desperately wanted to like, but ended up kind of hating. It carried a LOT of weight up high, had that stupid 5 speed gearbox and a huge motor with lots of power, but no soul... too heavy, too tall and had no perceptible spirit.
Recognizable...But I resisted the urge and got an FJR1300, a bike I desperately wanted to like, but ended up kind of hating. It carried a LOT of weight up high, had that stupid 5 speed gearbox and a huge motor with lots of power, but no soul.