[Dougl]

How much more powah they gonna make with 50 cc. When I was shopping for a bike, the BMW dealer claimed that the new boxer engines could make a lot more power. Maybe with all water cooling they will.

 

[Dougl]

I wouldn’t mind 165 hp, if only for the straights. My objective in going to the BMW dealer was the S1000R but fortunately, they didn’t have a new one in stock.

 

[Dougl]

1st gear redline and you're already breaking the speed limit. Fun, but you can't use it often if the popo are around.

The riding position on the RS was too aggressive for me so the S1000R wouldn’t have worked. The riding position on the R is about as bent as I can handle.

 

[Dougl]

I personally would try ringing its neck in 1st or 2nd gear, and in any case most modern bikes limit the power O/P in 1st and 2nd gear.



Ah sorry, I thought you were interested in trying one. I thought about trying the RS but just sitting in the showroom I didn’t care for the slightly different riding position – just a wee bit of a lean forward.

I didn’t feel that with the S1000R, the bars are pretty upright and don’t feel forward at all, what I did notice was the pegs, they feel every bit as high as a full on sports bike.

It will be a lot quicker, never mind the extra power etc, - it is a good 50kg lighter than the R1250R. It'll fly.

I didn’t get the chance to try an S1000R as there were none available at the time. I recently sat on an S1000xr. I took my boots off so as not to scratch it. It was a bit high for me (33”) in my stocking feet and I didn’t even stand it up for fear of slipping and dropping it on the showroom floor.

 

[Dougl]

What's a crossover?

Tranny.

 

[Dougl]

Oooo. 145 hp, 110 ft lbs, 523 lbs wet. Telelever, DSA. I’ll take one.

 

[Dougl]

Ack! Speculation is that a 1300 R, RS and RT will be released in a year or so. If the 1300 R has a new frame like the 1300 GS has, it would weight about 500 lbs.

 

[Dougl]

My guess is that next year will be RT, RS and R for 2026. Maybe 2027 if they decide to make different GS versions in 2025.

I may be too old to continue riding by then.

 

[Dougl]

I like the way it looks, but I'm worried about the riding position being too sporty and not comfortable. We'll see when the actual reviews come out.

Looks like BMW reacted to the R1200/1250R as an “old man” bike by making the 1300 more like a sport bike - pegs back, lean forward. The new BMW MT-13.

 

[Dougl]

Also has a good cutaway image and description at 1min15sec of straight cut v helical gears, the function and sound they make. I was naive about this before, and explains the sound when I test rode the R1300GS.

It’s supposed to have fully linked brakes so how is he operating them independently?