[Panzermann]

With my first edition LC, I’m starting to feel like an old hex-head or cam-head owner.

As good as the 1250 is, it doesn’t attract me, and likely the 1300 will be the same.

 

[Panzermann]

I just got the email about the 2022 S1000R and I'm thinking of taking a test ride when it's available.

I’d be trying the all-new Triumph Speed Triple too - 132kW, 125Nm and 196kg. 👌

 

[Panzermann]

Where will the displacement race take us?

It's the same throughout the automotive industry - build something 'better' than the previous model in order to make your product more attractive compared to the opposition. Production racing categories used to set particular capacity boundaries, but they're not as relevant anymore..

 

[Panzermann]

I wish they'd do a crossover with the boxer engine

What's a crossover?

 

[Panzermann]

Why does everything have to be so BIG ?

In the modern era at least, BMWs haven't been that light. The R90S of 1975 weighed in at 215kg kerb weight - the 1200LC is only about 15 kg more.

 

[Panzermann]

The F800 engine is dry sump, with the reservoir integrated into the crankcase. So oil changes are just pull the sump plug and unscrew the filter, same as your 1200 Boxer. I’d be very surprised if the R13 was any different.

 

[Panzermann]

That’s the Akra muffler - wonder what the stock one will look like.

 

[Panzermann]

A chromed elephant’s leg?

Can’t be - elephants are a protected species.
I’m thinking a disused ICBM launch tube.

 

[Panzermann]

This may allow the engine itself to be somewhat lighter

How so, I wonder …

 

[Panzermann]

Good question, but I'm assuming metal weighs more than water, and a fully liquid cooled engine might use less metal?

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Marginal, I’d reckon. If you take away the current cooling fins, you’d have about as much metal as you’d need to create a water jacket.

 

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Mark your diaries - 28 September. Screenshot of a social media post by @mikeS’s dealer.

 

[Panzermann]

A prototype for destruction in BMW’s development graveyard.

 

[Panzermann]

Their development bikes aren’t full spec models, and have no VIN, so they can’t be released to the public. Hence destruction.

I’d be hsppy to salvage some bits and bobs though …

 

[Panzermann]

Best we buy our dream bike if we don’t already have it before all the immature automated interventions come in and ruin our riding experience.

 

[Panzermann]

BMW went from industry worst display with the previous R1200R to industry best with the R1250R.

Bear in mind the R1200R had a 2013 technology display, which for them was pretty reasonable. I still like mine.

Traction control – very much overrated and often quite annoying.

I don’t mind traction control (DTC/ASC) but I fear the day I have to buy a bike with more ‘advanced’ rider aids that can’t simply and easily be switched off. Adaptive cruise control, lane keeping, blind spot avoidance …

 

[Panzermann]

Hmmm - R9T? (Camhead in a simplified frame with USD forks instead of telelever, and fewer gauges.)

R9T was a new rather than newer model. It just happened to use the same camhead engine.

 

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Certainly looks da biz.

My fear is that by the time the Roadster version hits the shelves, it will be fitted with a whole suite of interventional rider ‘aids’ that can’t readily be disabled. I’m no Luddite but I’ve experienced car-based systems that are crude in their implementation, even on the more luxury brands. The I in AI is overstated in my view.

 

[Panzermann]

They said that about the current droopy LC light, @Ontrip, and now we love it. Well, a few of us do … 😉

 

[Panzermann]

… the likely reason being penny-pinching cost.

Likely reason was to pander to the likes of me - the sporty-fashion conscious 😅

 

[Panzermann]

I fear what will put me off the R1300R will be the intrusive electronics and endless menu scrolling

That’s my fear. If I needed to update, I’d be tempted to go with a runout 1250 (or a good used one from someone who has to have the latest).