[Panzermann]

Also has a good cutaway image and description at 1min15sec of straight cut v helical gears, the function and sound they make. I was naive about this before, and explains the sound when I test rode the R1300GS: https://www.r1200rforum.com/posts/652487/

I’d challenge his presumption that the straight cut gears make for smoother assisted shifts. Motorcycle gearboxes are constant mesh - each cog is always meshed with its pair - sliding dog clutches or shift forks move to engage or disengage gear pairs by locking the desired gear to the shaft.

Straight cut gears can handle higher loads and the gearbox can be more compact due to the absence of thrust bearings - hence BMW’s choice, I presume.

 

[RC65]

Yes, in my opinion they have.

BMW already have a couple of sporty naked bikes - the F900R and the S1000R. The R1300R should have been an evolution of its predecessors the R1200R and R1250R - a naked all-round roadster, capable of commuting, scratching and touring - a jack of all trades if you like.

I love my R1250R and use it for all the above. It is fitted with a sports windscreen and top box. I’m sure the 1300 engine will be a step forward, and if the rest of the bike were similar to the 1250 in spirit then I would already have one on order - but it appears to lean too far towards the sporty end of the spectrum.

I will take one for a test ride (as well as the R1300RS) but at the moment it’s looking like I’ll be keeping the 1250.

Exactly. The R was not and should not be the the S1000R-adjacent naked sport bike in their lineup. The R1200/1250R has historically had a more universal utilitarianism to it, which distinguished it from the S1000R in a very distinct, practical way. I really fail to understand what BMW is trying to achieve with this new redesign, other than to now offer a sport bike in either a 4-cyl. ala the S1000R or in, now, a boxer twin (w/ similar aggressive ergos (at least comparatively speaking to the 1250)) -- but with a design appearance that's less attractive and sporty than that S1000R and weighs 75 more pounds than the S1000R. So now the R has essentially become the heavier, uglier sport bike in their lineup. What a shame.

 

[Ontrip]

With the R being refocused as a sport naked , it would be difficult to ignore the 1300 GS now that it offers the adaptive ride height or the awesome looking R1300 RS

 

[Panzermann]

difficult to ignore the 1300 GS

Especially as the new Telelever design provides better rider feedback. I suspect the base model GS will fill the void, as you suggest. I was pretty impressed by the look and feel of it at first sighting (not ridden one though).

 

[yerpal]

I'm growing ever more fond of my BMW R1200R LC (exc) which has all the electronics I need and is unfashionably theft proof. It’s taken me to all corners of Europe and I still enjoy a thrash to my local cafe. If I’m honest I was hoping the 1.3 would woo me with a slim sexy aesthetic but it’s a fat ugly pig (*opinion) with its increased heft and nutsy plasticky design so my money stays in the bank. Can I remind us all of the full quotation…
“Jack of all trades master of none, though oftentimes better than master of one”

 

[MotoCon]

When I see this picture on the BMW website, I am getting more and more happy with the K27 I own. If this is the future I'll stick to retro.
It is looks too wide, like a bull, and therefore loses the agile look of a roadster. This is no roadster.
I especially hate the "jaw dropping" look of the headlight/dash configuration that has similarities to the face of Beavis and Butthead saying "Huhhhh"...
It seems to get worse with every new model they introduce. A friend of mine said it looks like it already has been in a frontal accident.
(No offence intended for those who genuinely like it )

 

[TrackRider54]

I love the look and the sportiness. My only concern is the fact that I'm 6'5" and the egos will be too tight due to the pegs being higher and further rearward and the riding position being further forward.

I'll just have to ride one. My 2013 has a 2" higher seat and 3/4" lower pegs with a 1" bar riser.

 

[Panzermann]

I especially hate the "jaw dropping" look of the headlight/dash configuration

I believe that’s simply an artefact of having to mount the forward facing radar where you would normally place a headlight. Something no Roadster owner asked for.

 

[MickeyMoto]

The 1300s look better in the flesh. Not sure they will sell many for lots of reasons. Smaller bikes seem to be more popular. R900R, 100hp, 195kgs, shaft drive might shift a few

For next year's upgrade there will be auto pilot and stabilisers!

 

[keith1200rs]

I will hopefully find out what it's like next week when I take my bike for a service, as have the R1300R booked as a loan bike.

 

[RC65]

I will hopefully find out what it's like next week when I take my bike for a service, as have the R1300R booked as a loan bike.

Please be sure to give us the your take on it...very curious to hear from an experienced 1250 owner how it looks and rides in person, a perspective that's been missing from all the on-line reviews.

 

[keith1200rs]

I certainly will report back. I tried the R1300GS at the service last year and was impressed apart from the overall height off the ground when cornering. Oh, and the stupid menus, the teething problems, the price and the whining from the gearbox.

 

[JBacklund]

I'll be keeping the '13 R1200R that I bought last spring. Sure, it only has 110 hp, and sure, It has 26,000 miles on it (now), but it runs great, looks great, and only set me back $6700.

It has an honest-to-God ignition key, no engine 'power modes' other than just ride the damn thing, and IMO, looks a lot better than almost any R bike offered since, including the wife's 2015 R1200R that she used to own.

Although not actually a deal-breaker, I sorely dislike those rectangular, black plastic things they inflict almost all new bikes to serve as instrumentation.

Fine machine that it undoubtedly is, I'd keep my '13 R1200R, '22 Triumph Rocket 3R, and possibly buy another Royal Enfield Classic 650 (in teal) for about 8G's.

 

[Mick]

If the standard bike isn't right then what about this.

BMW’s R 1300 R “Titan” Is A Nitrous-Powered Hooligan Machine

 

[BMWRACEGUN]

I'll be keeping the '13 R1200R that I bought last spring. Sure, it only has 110 hp, and sure, It has 26,000 miles on it (now), but it runs great, looks great, and only set me back $6700.

It has an honest-to-God ignition key, no engine 'power modes' other than just ride the damn thing, and IMO, looks a lot better than almost any R bike offered since, including the wife's 2015 R1200R that she used to own.

Although not actually a deal-breaker, I sorely dislike those rectangular, black plastic things they inflict almost all new bikes to serve as instrumentation.

Fine machine that it undoubtedly is, I'd keep my '13 R1200R, '22 Triumph Rocket 3R, and possibly buy another Royal Enfield Classic 650 (in teal) for about 8G's.

I agree 100%. OTOH....

the 2025 R1200G/S looks great. ( a little bit off topic but an idea that might work)

There is no protection from what the front tire will kick up. Some pics show what it looks like after being ridden in the dirt and such. The results are disgusting! I like the idea of it being a super heavy duty street bike. Maybe it can have a few items added to fulfill that role. IMHO, the only boxers engined machines that work ok off road are the original R80, the next version in the R100GS... then the R100GS PD which had all kinds of problems.....so on and ...so forth. There are two riding environs, street and non-street. The Suzuki DR 650 I owned, performed admirably on and off road. So I say get a bike for off-road and a bike for on road. MY BIKE FOR ON ROAD WILL REMAIN AS THE 2014 R1200R. BTW, it does just fine on fire roads and related.

 

[ArbOl]

The headlight actually makes sense on that version.

 

[Arrrr1300]

Hey, just joined the forum and purchased the r1300r (picking it up at the end of the month). Test rode one the other week and was genuinely impressed. I’m coming from a 1250GS and had a 1200GS before that.

The power and torque are genuinely more than anyone would need on the road, only gave around 60% throttle and it felt impressively quick. Very agile and the suspension was much more firm than I expected, even on road mode it feels very firm at speed.

Only complaints would be that the seat is not comfortable, didn’t notice at first but towards the end of the two hours, my ass was going numb. Also felt it on my wrists a bit. Last, the bike sounds nice on cold start but over 50mph, the wind noise completely drowned out the bike.

The agility of the bike is so impressive though. I ride my GS pretty hard on some winding mountain roads and it’s amazing but it felt so much better on the R, considering it’s about the same weight, it’s really impressive.

I’m a bit nervous leaving the GS, I have a feeling I might regret it but I only toured once and it felt overkill just to take it on spirited runs at weekends. I got the SE model with the sports breaks and akra. The blue looked great in person, still not a fan of the front - they do a good job of making the instrument cluster above the headlight look incredibly awkward but I like the headlight, the very angular look matches the angles on the bike well.

I can see why 1200R and 1250R owners who really like those aren’t keen on the new one. It’s much more aggressive - seems to be closer to a Superduke compared to the 1250R.

Happy to answer any questions on it

 

[Lee F]

Hey, just joined the forum and purchased the r1300r

Welcome to the forum.
We need to see a picture of your new bike

 

[Arrrr1300]

Welcome to the forum.
We need to see a picture of your new bike

Thanks, I will do!

 

[Panzermann]

I think you’re the pioneer on this forum with your R1300R, @Arrrr1300 . Congrats! 🎉🥳

Looks like we’ll have to expand this part of the forum with Accessorise, Technical etc shortly.