Also has a good cutaway image and description at 1min15sec of straight cut v helical gears, the function and sound they make. I was naive about this before, and explains the sound when I test rode the R1300GS: https://www.r1200rforum.com/posts/652487/

 

Also has a good cutaway image and description at 1min15sec of straight cut v helical gears, the function and sound they make. I was naive about this before, and explains the sound when I test rode the R1300GS.

It’s supposed to have fully linked brakes so how is he operating them independently?

 

I have an R1300GS which replaced an R1250RS. The 1300GS is marginally better on fuel consumption than the 1250RS was. All of these shiftcam boxers are excellent for this.

Going by the official figures the new 1300 engine is very slightly less efficient than the 1250. You’d be hard pushed to notice any difference going by the published figures. Also tank is 1 litre less.

From my one of my previous posts;

So the R1250R has an 18 litre tank, co2 rating is 110g/km with fuel consumption rated at 4.75l per 100km

The R1300R has a 17 lite tank, co2 rating is 110g/km, with fuel consumption slightly higher at 4.8l per 100km

 

What was the 1200 rated at?

 

So the R1250R has an 18 litre tank, co2 rating is 110g/km with fuel consumption rated at 4.75l per 100km

The R1300R has a 17 lite tank, co2 rating is 110g/km, with fuel consumption slightly higher at 4.8l per 100km

I would read that as the same consumption. The 4.8 is rounded off.
On a review of the RS it was mentioned the fuel consumption was slightly better than the 1250RS.

 

What was the 1200 rated at?

Google, or maybe AI, is your geek. My search suggests 115g/km

I would read that as the same consumption. The 4.8 is rounded off.

On a review of the RS it was mentioned the fuel consumption was slightly better than the 1250RS.

Could well be. The figures suggest that the only difference may be slightly reduced range due to the 1 litre reduction in fuel capacity.

Anybody been for a test ride yet?

 

Have they changed it too much?

 

Have they changed it too much?

Yes, in my opinion they have.

BMW already have a couple of sporty naked bikes - the F900R and the S1000R. The R1300R should have been an evolution of its predecessors the R1200R and R1250R - a naked all-round roadster, capable of commuting, scratching and touring - a jack of all trades if you like.

I love my R1250R and use it for all the above. It is fitted with a sports windscreen and top box. I’m sure the 1300 engine will be a step forward, and if the rest of the bike were similar to the 1250 in spirit then I would already have one on order - but it appears to lean too far towards the sporty end of the spectrum.

I will take one for a test ride (as well as the R1300RS) but at the moment it’s looking like I’ll be keeping the 1250.

 

With the R being refocused as a sport naked , it would be difficult to ignore the 1300 GS now that it offers the adaptive ride height or the awesome looking R1300 RS

 

difficult to ignore the 1300 GS

Especially as the new Telelever design provides better rider feedback. I suspect the base model GS will fill the void, as you suggest. I was pretty impressed by the look and feel of it at first sighting (not ridden one though).

 

I'm growing ever more fond of my BMW R1200R LC (exc) which has all the electronics I need and is unfashionably theft proof. It’s taken me to all corners of Europe and I still enjoy a thrash to my local cafe. If I’m honest I was hoping the 1.3 would woo me with a slim sexy aesthetic but it’s a fat ugly pig (*opinion) with its increased heft and nutsy plasticky design so my money stays in the bank. Can I remind us all of the full quotation…
“Jack of all trades master of none, though oftentimes better than master of one”

 

When I see this picture on the BMW website, I am getting more and more happy with the K27 I own. If this is the future I'll stick to retro.
It is looks too wide, like a bull, and therefore loses the agile look of a roadster. This is no roadster.
I especially hate the "jaw dropping" look of the headlight/dash configuration that has similarities to the face of Beavis and Butthead saying "Huhhhh"...
It seems to get worse with every new model they introduce. A friend of mine said it looks like it already has been in a frontal accident.
(No offence intended for those who genuinely like it )

 

I especially hate the "jaw dropping" look of the headlight/dash configuration

I believe that’s simply an artefact of having to mount the forward facing radar where you would normally place a headlight. Something no Roadster owner asked for.

 

I love the look and the sportiness. My only concern is the fact that I'm 6'5" and the egos will be too tight due to the pegs being higher and further rearward and the riding position being further forward.

I'll just have to ride one. My 2013 has a 2" higher seat and 3/4" lower pegs with a 1" bar riser.

 

The 1300s look better in the flesh. Not sure they will sell many for lots of reasons. Smaller bikes seem to be more popular. R900R, 100hp, 195kgs, shaft drive might shift a few

For next year's upgrade there will be auto pilot and stabilisers!

 

I will hopefully find out what it's like next week when I take my bike for a service, as have the R1300R booked as a loan bike.

 

Please be sure to give us the your take on it...very curious to hear from an experienced 1250 owner how it looks and rides in person, a perspective that's been missing from all the on-line reviews.

 

I certainly will report back. I tried the R1300GS at the service last year and was impressed apart from the overall height off the ground when cornering. Oh, and the stupid menus, the teething problems, the price and the whining from the gearbox.

 

I'll be keeping the '13 R1200R that I bought last spring. Sure, it only has 110 hp, and sure, It has 26,000 miles on it (now), but it runs great, looks great, and only set me back $6700.

It has an honest-to-God ignition key, no engine 'power modes' other than just ride the damn thing, and IMO, looks a lot better than almost any R bike offered since, including the wife's 2015 R1200R that she used to own.

Although not actually a deal-breaker, I sorely dislike those rectangular, black plastic things they inflict almost all new bikes to serve as instrumentation.

Fine machine that it undoubtedly is, I'd keep my '13 R1200R, '22 Triumph Rocket 3R, and possibly buy another Royal Enfield Classic 650 (in teal) for about 8G's.

 

I'll be keeping the '13 R1200R that I bought last spring. Sure, it only has 110 hp, and sure, It has 26,000 miles on it (now), but it runs great, looks great, and only set me back $6700.

It has an honest-to-God ignition key, no engine 'power modes' other than just ride the damn thing, and IMO, looks a lot better than almost any R bike offered since, including the wife's 2015 R1200R that she used to own.

Although not actually a deal-breaker, I sorely dislike those rectangular, black plastic things they inflict almost all new bikes to serve as instrumentation.

Fine machine that it undoubtedly is, I'd keep my '13 R1200R, '22 Triumph Rocket 3R, and possibly buy another Royal Enfield Classic 650 (in teal) for about 8G's.

I agree 100%. OTOH....

the 2025 R1200G/S looks great. ( a little bit off topic but an idea that might work)

There is no protection from what the front tire will kick up. Some pics show what it looks like after being ridden in the dirt and such. The results are disgusting! I like the idea of it being a super heavy duty street bike. Maybe it can have a few items added to fulfill that role. IMHO, the only boxers engined machines that work ok off road are the original R80, the next version in the R100GS... then the R100GS PD which had all kinds of problems.....so on and ...so forth. There are two riding environs, street and non-street. The Suzuki DR 650 I owned, performed admirably on and off road. So I say get a bike for off-road and a bike for on road. MY BIKE FOR ON ROAD WILL REMAIN AS THE 2014 R1200R. BTW, it does just fine on fire roads and related.

 

If the standard bike isn't right then what about this.

BMW’s R 1300 R “Titan” Is A Nitrous-Powered Hooligan Machine

 

The headlight actually makes sense on that version.

 

Hey, just joined the forum and purchased the r1300r (picking it up at the end of the month). Test rode one the other week and was genuinely impressed. I’m coming from a 1250GS and had a 1200GS before that.

The power and torque are genuinely more than anyone would need on the road, only gave around 60% throttle and it felt impressively quick. Very agile and the suspension was much more firm than I expected, even on road mode it feels very firm at speed.

Only complaints would be that the seat is not comfortable, didn’t notice at first but towards the end of the two hours, my ass was going numb. Also felt it on my wrists a bit. Last, the bike sounds nice on cold start but over 50mph, the wind noise completely drowned out the bike.

The agility of the bike is so impressive though. I ride my GS pretty hard on some winding mountain roads and it’s amazing but it felt so much better on the R, considering it’s about the same weight, it’s really impressive.

I’m a bit nervous leaving the GS, I have a feeling I might regret it but I only toured once and it felt overkill just to take it on spirited runs at weekends. I got the SE model with the sports breaks and akra. The blue looked great in person, still not a fan of the front - they do a good job of making the instrument cluster above the headlight look incredibly awkward but I like the headlight, the very angular look matches the angles on the bike well.

I can see why 1200R and 1250R owners who really like those aren’t keen on the new one. It’s much more aggressive - seems to be closer to a Superduke compared to the 1250R.

Happy to answer any questions on it

 

Hey, just joined the forum and purchased the r1300r

Welcome to the forum.
We need to see a picture of your new bike

 

I think you’re the pioneer on this forum with your R1300R, @Arrrr1300 . Congrats! 🎉🥳

Looks like we’ll have to expand this part of the forum with Accessorise, Technical etc shortly.

 

When the images of the new R1300R showed up on the web, I personally thought it was butt ugly. Not sure why, maybe more photos and video, but that thing has really grown on me vs. my 2022 R1250R.

The new model looks way more sporty and modern to me. Not wild about the current color options. Would want the features of the "sport" model color, but not the white color scheme.

It is too bad BMW was incapable to shed some pounds, all while reducing fuel capacity. This was a missed opportunity to compete more favorably with Ducati Streetfigher and Aprilia Tuono.

I am 50+ in years, but I am certain BMW is def targeting "younger" or sport oriented riders with this new design language. I will def be looking to 2027 color schemes/ equip options to switch over to it from my 2022.

I do wonder if the straight cut gears actually sound better or worse, I suspect that is very subjective. But so far, reviews indicate butter smooth quick shifter now, which in my mind is a big plus. The 190 rear tire probably isnt needed, but again speaks to the sportier look.

Good luck to those of you who pull the trigger on one, looking forward to your first ride in sight.

 

When the images of the new R1300R showed up on the web, I personally thought it was butt ugly. Not sure why, maybe more photos and video, but that thing has really grown on me vs. my 2022 R1250R.

The new model looks way more sporty and modern to me. Not wild about the current color options. Would want the features of the "sport" model color, but not the white color scheme.

It is too bad BMW was incapable to shed some pounds, all while reducing fuel capacity. This was a missed opportunity to compete more favorably with Ducati Streetfigher and Aprilia Tuono.

I am 50+ in years, but I am certain BMW is def targeting "younger" or sport oriented riders with this new design language. I will def be looking to 2027 color schemes/ equip options to switch over to it from my 2022.

I do wonder if the straight cut gears actually sound better or worse, I suspect that is very subjective. But so far, reviews indicate butter smooth quick shifter now, which in my mind is a big plus. The 190 rear tire probably isnt needed, but again speaks to the sportier look.

Good luck to those of you who pull the trigger on one, looking forward to your first ride in sight.

It’s interesting the colours are tied to the options. I wanted the white but wasn’t willing to spend the extra £2k+ on the performance pack so I got the blue for the SE options.

The first time I saw one was in person and I do like how it looks. I don’t understand how it weighs so much though, it’s basically the same weight as the GS. It doesn’t feel heavy at speed though, only really felt it when pushing out of a space, it’s very agile on the roads

 

Sat on the new R1300RS at the local dealer the other day. I liked the white colour sheme, but it's way too tall for me with its 'sports' suspension setup.

Decided to spend £740 on some BMW panniers for my 1250.

 

Well, my test ride on the R1300R didn't happen. I requested the test ride when I booked the service a couple of months ago but the let someone else take it. There were no other 1300s available so I had an F900R. Small, and uncomfortable.

 

Man, that long, wide tank-top black sheath is really unsightly. Between its new "monobody" sharp-edged sportiness and design choices like that exaggerated sheath, this new look has really lost nearly all of the R's elegance.

 

Anyone know -- or have a decent speculation -- if the 1300's new slip-on can be retrofit on the 1250? I'm wondering if this is an alternative to to the aftermarket Akrapovic for those of us who still have the stock chrome cannon on their 1250.

 

Anyone know -- or have a decent speculation -- if the 1300's new slip-on can be retrofit on the 1250?

I'd rather do that vice versa...

 

"Man, that long, wide tank-top black sheath is really unsightly. Between its new "monobody" sharp-edged sportiness and design choices like that exaggerated sheath, this new look has really lost nearly all of the R's elegance."
I'll agree, the whole side view of the bike is kind of screwed up. I'll take this engine and frame with the "Classic" model's styling. Like mine, lol.

 

You are all echoing the reviewer’s opinion that “this is not your granddad’s bike” like the 1250R is. 😅 Other (more mature) reviewers have said the same, albeit dad’s bike.

Look at the demographic of this forum compared with her generation and, as I have opined previously, it’s obvious the bike isn’t aimed at us. She was positively squirming with delight over the bike, and I fully expected her oohs and aahs to ‘reach a crescendo’ if you know what I mean. The way she went on about the bike’s shoulders … 😳

Personally I think it’s a great looking bike, although would have preferred it without the adaptive function of the new cruise control, with its concomitant radar face (for both function and form reasons).

For me, though, it’s lost its Swiss Army knife appeal - my top-case stays on almost permanently, as I’m always running errands with the bike. A topcase on the 1300R would look oddly out of place, I’d think (not that they ever look great on anything less than an RT). The abbreviated rear seat means I’d not easily be able to throw a bag of pool salt on the back. Not sure about pillion room/comfort. And the styling is likely to not bode well for adding farkles, other than from the BMW Motorrad Option $£€719 catalogue.

So hang on to your K27/53, those of you of the ‘older demographic’ - the new bike is for the Sunday morning crowd. The GS will eventually take the place of our ‘old school’ Roadsters as the tool for every occasion, I reckon.

 

It’s interesting you suggested the GS as the monthly price between the GS TE and the R1300R SE were the exact same. I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s the route a lot of people go, especially now that the GS has that lowering system for when you come to a stop.

Some things in the review that did not mirror my experience was the suspension. At speed, it’s rock solid and softens a bit when slowing down for a corner. Although, I am 90kg so I’m probably on the heavy side for who it’s set up for but definitely didn’t “glide” for the most part for me.

Last, the clutch is very heavy on it. Definitely a bit of a forearm workout. It feels more like a sports bike that’s usable daily vs an every day bike, if that makes sense.

Definitely worth a test ride though. I expected not to like it but my riding is spirited mountain roads mainly which the bike really suits and it did put a massive smile on my face